[modeleng] Re: Melting Down and Marine things

  • From: Allen Messer <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 06:51:32 -0700 (PDT)

Hi, John!  Good to hear from you whenever you have the
time!  

Al Messer


--- john.burridge@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Hi To All,
> I havn't been contributing very much on the list as
> it is on my home computer,and i only go on ti every
> couple of days.
> I see that there seems to be quite a lot of interest
> in to boat boilers which i am interested in also
> casting/smelting another thing i would like to get
> into again both alumiumn and cast iron.
> I contacted the boat links that wilfried gave me the
> web site address for and it gives me building advice
> for engines, boilers and hull designs.
> I glad that the numbers of Alan's list are growing
> and that most people are pro active, i must get the
> Emails forwarded to work so i can contribute.
> yours John Burridge
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Message date : Oct 21 2004, 01:03 AM
> > From : "Ronald" 
> > To : modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Copy to : 
> > Subject : [modeleng] Re: Melting Down - Smelting
> > I have found the if you are just smelting
> aluminium you can build a muffle
> > of normal clay bricks and just pack the gaps with
> mud .Use an old iron
> > saucepan as a crucible.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Logan" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:13 PM
> > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Melting Down - Smelting
> > 
> > 
> > How far are you from a coal mine? the overburden
> above the coal seam, is
> > usually a good fire clay.
> > 
> > Bob L.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Terry Lane" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 10:11 PM
> > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Melting Down - Smelting
> > 
> > 
> > > No Al, not much clay around here at all.
> Limestone, talc, ironstone, but
> > no
> > > clay.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > No suitable Clay in the banks of that creek
> that flows
> > > > through your rancho??
> > > >
> > > > Al Messer
> > > > --- Terry Lane wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Just sent you a couple - I'll try & get a
> couple of
> > > > > the lil gas bottle jobby
> > > > > later today
> > > > >
> > > > > Well I did have to (shudder) buy the
> refractory.
> > > > > Finally tracked it down
> > > > > locally at a potter's supply house, who have
> all
> > > > > sorts of good things for
> > > > > establishing a foundry. Bentonite for making
> > > > > greensand, fireclay, and I also
> > > > > (wince) bought some porcelain clay to
> experiment
> > > > > with making crucibles. AND
> > > > > the nice lady in charge over there has
> offered to
> > > > > fire the crucibles for me
> > > > > when I get 'em made.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Tel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, would love a pic or two.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Peter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS Why am I not surprised you didn't buy
> an off
> > > > > the shelf jobbie?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Terry Lane" 
> > > > > > To: 
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:07 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Melting Down -
> Smelting
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've recenjtly built two furnaces Peter,
> one is
> > > > > based on a section of 12"
> > > > > > diameter water heater barrel - 15" high
> with a 2
> > > > > 1/2" lining of castable
> > > > > > refractory, it works real well on charcoal
> and (at
> > > > > a pinch) wood chips.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > second is based on a 5lb gas bottle -
> similar
> > > > > construction but with the
> > > > > > 'blow hole' a bit higher up for gas firing
> -
> > > > > haven't really fired it yet,
> > > > > > other than to cure the refractory & 'tune'
> the gas
> > > > > burner.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For reclaming scrap and some aluminium
> work I
> > > > > still use the forge (wheel
> > > > > rim
> > > > > > welded to a 12 gal drum with air system
> > > > > underneath) - air supply for both
> > > > > > solid fuel furnaces, is an Electrolux
> vacuum
> > > > > cleaner with the hgose
> > > > > attached
> > > > > > to the 'blow side'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll send you a pic or two if you like
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Peter J. Cathcart"
> > > > > 
> > > > > > To: 
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 5:58 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [modeleng] Melting Down -
> Smelting
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tel and all
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your comment below struck a cord. I just
> missed
> > > > > a small smelter on eBay
> > > > > > > yesterday (sorry Tel, nearly spent
> money). I
> > > > > have wanted a small
> > > > > smelting
> > > > > > > device for some time. Lead, copper and
> brass
> > > > > probably figure most in
> > > > > > terms
> > > > > > > of what I would use it for. Trying to
> find a
> > > > > suitable device however is
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > so easy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So how does everyone out there deal with
> > > > > smelting? What devices are
> > > > > > > available? What problems arise?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Peter
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --------
> > > > > > > You should get a few bits n pieces worth
> saving
> > > > > and a bit of aluminium
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > melting down,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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