You got ex convicts from Poland too Tel? I didn't know they deported them from there!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Lane" <tel@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 9:52 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Chinnor And in Oz, a person from Poland who works in the marshalling yard. > Jesse, > > A shunting pole in the UK is something like a boathook - about 1 1/2" > diameter and four or five feet long with a suitable hook on the end to > manipulate the chain. Poling sockets in the US were to allow a loco on an > adjacent road to move a truck by leaning on the end of a much more > substantial pole. At least, thats what I believe to be the case. > > Yet another example of our "common" language! > > Cheers, > > JohnP > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jesse Livingston" <fernj1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 8:56 PM > Subject: [modeleng] Re: Chinnor > > > Shunting Poles were outlawed over here many years ago and now the new cars > don't even have poling sockets anymore. One dangerous thing that was and > probably still is being done is the flying switch. A car (wagon) being > towed needs to go into a side track so the locomotive starts pulling the car > at a walking pace toward a facing switch and the switchman pulls the cut > lever. At that instant, the locomotive accelerates past the switch leaving > the rolling car behind and the switchman who has hopefully had time to run > ahead, throws the switch so the car is diverted into the side track. > Procedure is frowned on by railroads due to possibility of derailment if the > switch is not thrown all the way before the rolling car reaches it. This > type flying switch would not be possible with the system used in England and > you are better off for not being able to do it! > > Jesse in Tennessee > > To watch an experienced shunter with a shunting pole is a pleasure. I was > taught how to use one by an old hand and it is easier than it looks... with > practice... lots of it!!!!! That's the way hump yards were mostly done, the > couplings were 3 link and the trains were not fully fitted. A days shunting > on the svr for demonstration is hard work, haven't used a pole in years and > would probably kill me now at my age, can still do it for the odd wagon > though. > > Dave. > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/381 - Release Date: 03/07/2006 > > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line. > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.