[modeleng] Re: Adult education and pratical training

  • From: steve crees <stevecrees@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:55:44 +0000 (GMT)

I am with you John regarding apprenticeships and training my 11 year old son is 
geting into model engineering and he says i wish there was some were I could 
learn to do this propely I went to his open evening at his secondry school all 
they had was 1 lathe, 1 mill and 30 benches when i went to same school there 
was 6 lathes, 6 mills and 30 benches and also a small ali smelting furnace this 
has now gone but they said he doesnt do metelwork any more but combined 
technology this covers cooking, textiles,woodwork,and metal work including 
drawing so they spend a long time learning how to manufacture things 
approxamatly seven weeks on each subject.
  Steve 
john.burridge@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
  Hi to all,
We have had a couple of new apprentices this year and have sent them to Newbury 
college in Berkshire for initial pratical training which turns out to be a 
night school class which model engineers attend, I believe that for Eighteen 
years this class has been running i am also told that the former Technical 
college in Oxford runs a simalar course.

Additional to the apprentices there have been a couple of chaps which are 
accademically trained upto either HND or even degree who wanted to do the 
pratical training which these days with training schools having dissapeared can 
now use these night school classes to catch up.

I surpose that running a training school as i did back in the late 1970'S is 
expensive but the level of applicants coming for jobs are trained at the 
technical level but not at grass roots as was the case in the olden days, it 
didn't matter weather you were craft,technical or graduate everyone went 
through my training school at Land Rover which made you understand lots of 
information frm basic princapals.

Seeing lads and these days sometime lasses start work not even being able to 
use a saw or a file correctly(not alone simple machine tools lathes,Mills and 
the simple drilling machine) but being able to design on the CAD not realy 
understanding how things are done
causes problems and slow producting down when things need redrawing or complete 
redesigning.

Hopefully companies still doing engineering will see sence and start to train 
at basic levels again to keep what engineering we have as a country at a high 
standard which we once had.

Enough of my waffle.

regards John Burridge 




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