Apart from a boiler certificate, many clubs now require police clearance of each driver. My club, like some others, requries drivers to have gone through a driver training programme, have the appropriate certificate, and carry a log book around for that.:- This year's training schedule will include: Learning to prepare a steam locomotive for use on the track Track safety and signals Cleaning and placing 'on-shed' a locomotive after use Driving and control of a 'diesel' Correct use of signals and official duties of station control and guard Driving with passengers The Driver training scheme is intended to prepare drivers for running trains safely on public running days. Included in the training is a log-book to be maintained by each trainee signifying hours spent driving on any track with any locomotive. Then, for many events, there is the Risk Assesment to be prepared and submitted beforehand, accident books, logs, etc etc.... I have probably missed some out, but that lot is enough to turn a hobby into work. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie Purslow" <bpduo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> And long may they continue to do so but I still don't see your point about the "plethora of rules and regulations" involved in public running. I've never come across them - what are they? Barrie MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.