Re: [MoAccess] Motif vs Tyros

  • From: Vince Mistretta <vmistretta1411@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 08:30:28 -0400

There is a Tyros list but it has been inactive for a while.  I do know
that most members were using - as myself - a Tyros3 and not the 4
because of the expense.

I am not sure who maybe using it as  an actual workstation.  I think
Steve Mitsura had tried but went another direction as he's now looking
at other boards according to his posts.

On 7/1/12, Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> There are a good many blind Tyros users out there. Most of these people are
> using the Tyros for doing one-man shows: wedings, small parties, etc. It is
> incredibly realistic at being a backing band while you play. The styles,
> harmonizer, and so forth aren't really useful if you're playing with a full
> band. Ensemble keyboard players would do better with a workstation, where
> they can split/layer voices as much as they want, as well as build their own
> from scratch. I know a few blind people that have the Tyros as a studio
> sound module, but is very expensive for that approach.
>
> The Tyros is a great arranger with some workstation features. The Motif is a
> great workstation with some arranger features. My personal opinion is that
> the Tyros is the superior live keyboard, and the Motif is the superior
> studio piece, but they both can do either things to some degree.
>
> Anyway, there isn't a blind Tyros users list, as far as I know, but lots of
> them are on MIDI-Mag. At one point, there were panel descriptions, menu
> descriptions, and so on floating around for at least the Tyros 3.
>
> I suggest to ask on MIDI-Mag. Go to
> www.midimag.org<http://www.midimag.org>.
>
> Bryan
>
> On Jun 29, 2012, at 4:51 PM, D!J!X! wrote:
>
> The motif is different in the layout and navigation than the tyros and the
> top line psr.  The tyros and psr are aranger keyboards, with the styles and
> are geared more toward quick composition and perfomance like that. You can
> use it with a sequencer with no problem, and for quick recordings. Not sure
> what it has in terms of sampling capabilities, but the motif is more of a
> workstation, you can make more customized full songs on there, they have
> pattern mode for quick loop based music creation, and it's more of an
> overall perfoming workstation, with separate channels and assignable parts
> and such for performing, the tyros and psr just have the main voice, 1 or 2
> layers that you can add, and a left hand split along with the styles.
> The motif for example can have 4 separate keyboard zones or 4 layers
> (probably more in the xf and xs), you can use arps with the voices (short
> musical loops), and you can even use the pattern mode to create a 16 track
> part or such to use in performances. It also has many more effects than the
> tyros and more advanced routing, as it's meant for the studio musician and
> the live gigging musician as well.
> But if you're using the tyros in studio or for small performances, the
> tyros
> should be fine, though because of it's different layout and such it'll be
> harder to get help, since most people on this list at least use the motif
> line. The good thing about the tyros and psr navigation system is that it
> stays constant and once you learn it you can get around most of those
> keyboards.
>
> HTH, D!J!X!
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Ben Humphreys
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:52 PM
> To: MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:MoAccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [MoAccess] Motif vs Tyros
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I have a question relating to accessability of the Motif vs the Tyros.
>
> I've heard it consistently stated that Motif is one of the best
> workstations
> for a blind musician, presumably because so many functions are accessible
> from dedicated buttons and the screen interface is button-based, not
> touch-based.
>
> However, when I went to purchase a Motif, I was so enamored with the even
> more beautiful sounds of the Tyros that I ended up getting a Tyros 4
> instead.
>
> I figured the Yamaha Tyros interface was similar enough to Motif that I
> wouldn't be at any disadvantage to a Motif user.  Tyros has lots of buttons
> I can label in Braille, and screen has 10 buttons, A through J, tab keys,
> and 1 through 8 up / down buttons.  I'm assuming Motif is very similar.
>
> Of course, there is no ty-access mailing list, and certain apps, such as
> those from John Melas, won't work with Tyros.
>
> But I'm using Sonar with Cake Talking, same as I would with Motif.  And
> I've
> found a Tyros 4 Instrument Definition File so presumably can select
> instruments easily using Sonar.
>
> Which leads to my question:
>
> Is the Motif preferred among the blind community over the Tyros primarily
> because the Motif is somehow more accessable?  Or is it perhaps that the
> Tyros is a bit on the expensive side?
>
> Is there some compelling reason I'd want to sell my Tyros and get a Motif
> instead?
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Ben
>
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