[missbirdphotos] Re: It's official! I'm going to Alaska
- From: Larry Pace <larrypace64@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "missbirdphotos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <missbirdphotos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:18:53 -0700 (PDT)
Ethics was the wrong word. I probably should have used philosophy instead. My
bad! I have heard the competing views on the use of recording devices to get
birds in closer for viewing or photo opportunities and do have questions about
that practice.
Larry
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From: Judy Howle <howle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: missbirdphotos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 10:54 PM
Subject: [missbirdphotos] Re: It's official! I'm going to Alaska
I agree with you Jay in that I don't see any ethics problems with setting up
natural perches for birds. I have in the past set up dead tree branches and
such for backyard bird photography.
Judy Howle
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[mailto:missbirdphotos-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of J. K. Cliburn
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 6:44 PM
To: missbirdphotos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [missbirdphotos] Re: It's official! I'm going to Alaska
Well, I'm not sure it's an ethics issue at all -- I just never thought of doing
it. I feel kinda silly actually, because, as we've seen, the results can be
fantastic, and I'm already surrounded by all the necessary raw materials. I
don't really derive any additional sense of accomplishment from getting a shot
in the woods versus around the feeder. Either one is fine with me.
Jay
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Larry Pace <larrypace64@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I was thinking the same thoughts about "props" but did not want to say it.
> You guys are discussing backyard birds and I guess that is different
> than stalking birds in the fields and woods for shots or sitting in a
> box blind especially designed for concealment. What ever works to get
> the shot if it fits your particular set of ethics--I guess. By the way
> the songbird shots are terrific.
>
> As far as concealment--whatever works and you can tolerate. I have
> considered using the canned bird calls but means one more piece of
> equipment to keep up with in the field.
>
> Larry
>
> ________________________________
> From: J. K. Cliburn <jcliburn@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: missbirdphotos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 3:54 PM
>
> Subject: [missbirdphotos] Re: It's official! I'm going to Alaska
>
> Good Lord, I've been doing it all wrong! I live in 50 acres of woods
> with millions of scrap branches, logs, vines, cones, and assorted
> biomass, but I've been going to IT instead of bringing it to me!
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Frank Hensley
> <dr_frank_hensley@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Gayla, one idea (stolen from Alan Murphy's book on songbird setups)
>> is to keep your structural perch the same, but periodically change
>> just the end of it. Use zip ties or baling wire to attach a piece of
>> lichen-covered pine to a perch that birds are using. Take some shots.
>> The next day, replace the pine with a blooming cutting of dogwood.
>> You only need about 1 foot of material. You can even put your "perch"
>> in water to keep it fresh, but by fastening it to something the birds
>> are used to landing on, you don't have to keep changing your setup
>> much. You could also use a potted plant or small tree to modify the
>> background...
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "Dance, Gayla" <dancegf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "'missbirdphotos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <missbirdphotos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 1:49 PM
>>
>> Subject: [missbirdphotos] Re: It's official! I'm going to Alaska
>>
>> Thank you so much. I dream of obtaining this type of result.
>>
>> Well, now I am on a quest for some special branches. Thanks for the
>> inspiration.
>>
>> gayla
>>
>> From: missbirdphotos-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:missbirdphotos-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert
>> Smith
>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 1:39 PM
>> To: Mississippi Bird Photos Freelists
>> Subject: [missbirdphotos] Re: It's official! I'm going to Alaska
>>
>> I keep my eye out for photogenic perches all the time when I'm out &
>> about.
>> When I'm on property where I have permission ot "collect" props, I'll
>> put them in my truck. Such props have ranged from small branches to
>> 500+ pound logs. Here are a couple of examples.
>>
>> In the cardinal & mockingbird shot, I picked up a dead cedar branch
>> is southeast Georgia & carried it back to central North Carolina. It
>> was almost 8 months later that I used it. I pulled down some
>> greenbriar (with
>> fruit) & wrapped it "naturally" on the branch. I then put the branch
>> in a Christmas tree stand near a feeder. I got in a chair blind with
>> my lens & moved it back & forth until "the" branch was composing
>> pleasingly in the viewfinder... I spent an hour or so in the blind &
>> got several shots I was happy with - two attached here.
>>
>> In the bluebird & cedar waxwing shots, I put a pyracantha branch on
>> an old fence post that I had a mealworm feeder on, hoping for some
>> bluebird shots.
>> The cedar waxwing stopped by as well (much to my pleasure!). Again,
>> I was sitting in a chair blind with the sun at my back...
>>
>> In the chipmunk picture, I was looking at a piece of property for a
>> gentleman, when we drove down next to the river. A recent flood had
>> deposited a log across the woods road - and it was a nice, hollow
>> sycamore with lots of holes! Rather than throw it out of the road,
>> we put it in the back of the truck. I took it to Gary Carter's and
>> with a little work with a posthole digger, we had a new prop... A
>> few handfuls of peanuts down the hole resulted in chipmunk &
>> squirrels going in & out...
>>
>> And then the cardinal in the snow... I had a sweetgum snag "planted"
>> in the yard. Just before a snow, I hung a Christmas ornament on it.
>> As the snow fell, I sat in a blind & shot away...
>>
>> I could go on & on with similar examples...
>>
>> One problem with "special" perches is that you have to change them
>> out regularly or all your pictures start to look the "same".
>>
>> Robert Smith
>> 336-339-3497
>> rsmithent@xxxxxxx
>> www.photobiologist.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: dancegf@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: missbirdphotos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 13:16:49 -0500
>> Subject: [missbirdphotos] Re: It's official! I'm going to Alaska If
>> you have the time and inclination, I would love a photo to see the
>> set-up for your “special” perches near your feeder.
>>
>> gayla
>>
>> From: missbirdphotos-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:missbirdphotos-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert
>> Smith
>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:05 AM
>> To: Mississippi Bird Photos Freelists
>> Subject: [missbirdphotos] Re: It's official! I'm going to Alaska
>>
>> All right! Congratulations! Enjoy Alaska!
>>
>> Do I use a blind for backyard bird photography? Yes and no. Most of
>> the time I do, but there are some birds that I don't have to use a blind for.
>> If I've set up a number of "special" perches near my feeders, then I
>> often use a blind. There are some birds that are used to me filling
>> up the feeders & will approach within feet of me, but other birds are
>> "spookier"
>> and to get the shots I want, a blind is needed. At my house, it is
>> usually a chair blind or a bigger hunting blind with a chair inside
>> it. My friend, Gary Carter, has an elaborate blind & perch system in
>> his backyard - we've had 8 photographers in his permanent blind at
>> one time. I've got other friends that have built permanent blinds as
>> well. I also have one friend that puts on a ghillie suit and
>> captures amazing bird photos with a 70-300 mm lens in his backyard.
>> I've also laid under camo netting for shorebird & waterfowl pictures.
>> There IS a camo photography blind that resembles a big sack that you
>> put yourself in.
>>
>> I've also been thinking about a response to your eye-level warbler
>> question
>> - I can think of several different times that I've had warblers at
>> eye-level for a number of reasons.
>>
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> Robert Smith
>> 336-339-3497
>> rsmithent@xxxxxxx
>> www.photobiologist.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: dancegf@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: missbirdphotos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 09:13:57 -0500
>> Subject: [missbirdphotos] It's official! I'm going to Alaska It’s
>> official! We are going on a land/sea cruise to Alaska this year, so
>> I must learn to use my camera!!!!
>>
>> I do have a question for those that practice bird photography in your
>> back yard. Do you use a blind or are the birds accepting of you, if
>> you frequent your backyard often? Does anyone use camo netting to
>> wrap themselves in?
>> It sounds unusual, but I did read that on a forum.
>>
>> I borrowed my son’s D70 camera body yesterday to try with the Bigma.
>> I’m hoping for more light and quicker response time.
>>
>> Gayla dance
>> Brandon.
>>
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