Hi Paolo, I was wondering this myself as I was looking at non-toroidal inductor sources earlier today. One of my long-term goals is to miniaturize the minima design so that it is something small/light I can take on some of my adventures abroad. Being able to leverage molded, or even SMT, inductors would be a huge win both for space efficiency and cost. The AADE filter design tool can take non-ideal Q as well as component tolerances. A monte carlo sim can be run to see how sensitive the design is to these non-ideal characteristics. I'll try to cook up some plots in the next day or so to share with the group. 73, Ryan On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Paolo Cravero <paolo.cravero@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > Hello MINIMAlists. > I have been lurking and learning so far, while gathering components to > assemble my own MINIMA. > > Looking at the two LPFs with toroids and the declared exciter power output > in the order of milliWatts, why not using molded inductors for them? Q will > be lower (around 10 to 25 per inductor), but in case another lowpass > section can be added at a fraction of the cost of another toroidal core. > > What else am I overlooking? Is a Q=10 too low for an effective LPF in > MINIMA? > > 73, > Paolo IK1ZYW > > PS: common values are 680, 820 and 1000 nH > > -- > GQRP #12058 + http://www.paolocravero.tk + I QRP #476 > FT-817 External -:-Knob-:-Display-:-Keypad-:- at http://bit.ly/luE4pv > FT-8x7 -:- CAT-to-Bluetooth dongle -:- status at http://bit.ly/VtE3c4 >