[mchFree] [MCH] Digest Number 1737
- From: "Mike the mod" <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: mch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:16:49 -0700
There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
From: "Howard" <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
From: "Howard" <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. Re: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Howard" <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
4. Re: Yahoo group messages
From: "Gina" <tulsaannie@xxxxxxx>
5. Re: Re[2]: Help please
From: John Lehn <johnelehn2002@xxxxxxxxx>
6. Re: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Ken Hollingsworth" <kenholl@xxxxxxxxx>
7. Re: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Ken Hollingsworth" <kenholl@xxxxxxxxx>
8. RE: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Mark Mucher" <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. Re: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx>
10. Re: Help please
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
11. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
12. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
13. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
14. Re: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
15. Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
16. Re: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
17. Re: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
18. Re: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
19. Re: Re: Yahoo group messages
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
20. RE: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Mark Mucher" <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
21. Re: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx>
22. Re: Re[2]: Help please
From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx>
23. Re: Help please
From: "T. Hunt" <roversouth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
24. Re: Help please
From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx>
25. RE: Re: Yahoo group messages
From: "Annie" <tulsaannie@xxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 04:13:46 -0400
From: "Howard" <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
Hey good point Estavi.
Anyone know what are the major power suppliers for puters?
----- Original Message -----
From: Estavi Meilu
To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [MCH] HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
One suggestion: Find a site for a major power supply
mfr and read their specs.
Estavi
--- Jim <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Howard,
>
> > The power supply and memory stick are the first 2
> items we will be
> > replacing.
>
> I have been thinking about the computer 'switching'
> power supply, how
> sensitive they might be to low line voltage. That
> and if any individaul PS
> output voltages are low, how this will affect the
> typical motherboard.
>
> I wonder whether anyone has any concrete figures on
> these two issue, please
> don't guess. I can make educated guesses, I was an
> electronics tech. before
> teaching electronics. I'm hoping for anecdotal
> evidence.
>
> Jim
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 04:15:34 -0400
From: "Howard" <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
I think I can get memory stick from Best Buy.
Thats where I got mine for my puter.
But that was extra memory.
----- Original Message -----
From: Estavi Meilu
To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [MCH] HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
One suggestion: Find a site for a major power supply
mfr and read their specs.
Estavi
--- Jim <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Howard,
>
> > The power supply and memory stick are the first 2
> items we will be
> > replacing.
>
> I have been thinking about the computer 'switching'
> power supply, how
> sensitive they might be to low line voltage. That
> and if any individaul PS
> output voltages are low, how this will affect the
> typical motherboard.
>
> I wonder whether anyone has any concrete figures on
> these two issue, please
> don't guess. I can make educated guesses, I was an
> electronics tech. before
> teaching electronics. I'm hoping for anecdotal
> evidence.
>
> Jim
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 04:18:24 -0400
From: "Howard" <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Help please
When my wifes puter gave that error,it came up when booting,not allowing
the puter to boot anything but a black screen that had that "shell32dll
missing " at the top.
The only way to get any further was to use the 7 disks we got from HP.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Lehn
To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
Hi Melody,
What a cute name!
If all that is wrong is that you have a missing
"shell32.dll", then I can't see why you can't copy
that from another computer and register it.
I am unsure if the XP Home file is the same as the XP
Pro file, but if you want to give it a go I can send
you a copy of mine (XP PRO SP2) and all you woul need
to do is place it in C:\Windows\system32 and register
it.
To register it you go:
START > RUN > and type REGSVR32 shell32.dll and hit
OK.
Make sue you put a space between "REGSVR32" and
"shell32.dll" or it will not work!
That is all there is to it. The system will
immediately acknowledge if the registration has/has
not been successful.
My copy is approx 8.25 Mb, so it is not small.
I am unclear just how far your system is booting up,
bu I can't see why you can't load the new file and
register it from the Command Prompt.
Any one chip in here if that is not possible?
Cheers,
John Lehn (Sydney Australia)
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--- "Melody (Little Wolf)"
<little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi...that was the problem...I was doing a restore
> when the electricity went out...it stopped the
> restore in mid restore...which in turn now some of
> my components are gone...and it won't go back
> on...just black page comes up with the missing
> shell.dll pop up...I can't restore or anything...I
> can't get to start...it's black page...the only
> thing that comes up when I turn on my laptop is safe
> mode, etc...other than that, it's black page and
> that pop up comes up...I'm not trying to
> restore...I'm trying to get back on...and undo
> whatever happened...
>
> Mike the mod <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Melody,
> here are the command prompt restore instructions
> from Microsoft
>
>
> Start System Restore from the Command Line
>
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;304449&spid=1173&sid=global
>
> System Restore is a great feature in XP that lets
> you roll back the operating system state to a
> particular point in time. This can be a lifesaver
> when you install or delete something that causes
> problems. However, what do you do if things are so
> messed up that you can't access System Restore
> through the graphical interface? KB article 304449
> tells you how to start the System Restore tool from
> the command prompt.
>
http://www.wxpnews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=050816CO-KB_304449
>
>
> Start the System Restore tool at a command prompt
> 1. Restart your computer, and then press F8 during
> the initial startup to start your computer in Safe
> Mode with a command prompt.
>
> For additional information about the Safe mode with
> a command prompt, click the following article number
> to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
>
> 315222 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/) A
> description of the Safe mode boot options in Windows
> XP
>
> 2. Log on to your computer with an administrator
> account or with an account that has administrator
> credentials.
>
> 3. Type the following command at a command prompt,
> and then press ENTER:
>
> %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
>
> 4. Follow the instructions that appear on the screen
> to restore your computer to an earlier state.
>
> Mike ~ one of the Moderators
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> On 4/23/2006 at 8:02 PM Melody wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what you mean...where I live is way out
> in
> mountains...I'm 3 hours away from any shopping area
> to get a CD...if
> I put in a CD won't it lose all I have on it? the
> problem is I can't
> even get to start or front page with anything...it
> is all
> black...nothing on it...it died right in middle of
> restore so the
> laptop didn't get to finish what it was doing and I
> lost
> components...I can't get back on a page to do
> anything...except safe
> mode, and that stuff comes up when I first turn it
> on...maybe I can
> do a command prompt there???
>
> --- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Arron
> Cusimano"
> <mordain23@...> wrote:
>
> My advice is to get a PE boot CD (
> http://www.ubcd4win.com/ ) and
> run chkdsk
> c: /F from the cmd prompt. This usally fixes that
> issue.
>
>
> On 23/04/06, Mike the mod <mikebike@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Melody,
> what kind of laptop is it?
> Windows ? 98/ME/2000/XP
>
> Do you now have the battery fully charged and pluged
> into the
> power block
> to keep it charged up?
>
> Mike
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>
>
> On 4/23/2006 at 5:23 AM Melody wrote:
>
> I really screwed up...I tried to restore just back 1
> day because
> I had
> problems with instant messenger...well, in middle of
> restore the
> battery died, power went out...now I try to log into
> my laptop
> and it
> says shell.something is not there so it wont' even
> go to front
> page...it's like a dead laptop...I'm so upset...I'm
> on a friends
> computer...but I do my college work on my
> laptop...is there any
> way to
> get in and back to normal? I can't find my CD's...I
> think they are
> packed adn in storage...is there another way like
> when I first
> turn on
> laptop hit F something and type on it to get it back
> to normal
> again?
> and not lose all I had on it...sigh...Thanks, Melody
>
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:45:03 -0000
From: "Gina" <tulsaannie@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Yahoo group messages
I have waited a week.,,, still receiving numerous individual emails
messages from this group. I am on "no emails" and they have not
stopped..
--- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Annie" <cosmaann@...>
wrote:
>
> A few days ago my yahoo went nuts and downloaded 6 each of all my
> yahoo emails from about a week past. And I started getting
individual
> emails from this group. I change my emails from daily digest to
> special notice and I am still getting individual emails... Anyone
> know what is going on? I changed to no emails to see if that will
> help. If not I am going to have to unjoin. Thanks Annie
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:52:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Lehn <johnelehn2002@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Help please
Hi Melody,
Read further (your problem) and it appears that you
can't get to a command prompt.
You should be able to do that using a Windows 98 Boot
Disk, or if you can't get one fom a friend who is
using Win98, get a boot disk from:
http://www.tweakdoctor.com/bootdisks/
BTW, there are many other sites that provide these
boot disks.
Then you can copy the missing file (I can send one to
you) and register it as per pevious advice, from the
command prompt. I am however still unsure if the XP
Pro SP2 file is the same as the one for XP Home SP2.
Does anyone know??
John Lehn
-------------------------------------------------------
--- Howard <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> When my wifes puter gave that error,it came up when
> booting,not allowing the puter to boot anything but
> a black screen that had that "shell32dll missing "
> at the top.
>
> The only way to get any further was to use the 7
> disks we got from HP.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Lehn
> To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 1:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
>
>
> Hi Melody,
>
> What a cute name!
>
> If all that is wrong is that you have a missing
> "shell32.dll", then I can't see why you can't copy
> that from another computer and register it.
>
> I am unsure if the XP Home file is the same as the
> XP
> Pro file, but if you want to give it a go I can
> send
> you a copy of mine (XP PRO SP2) and all you woul
> need
> to do is place it in C:\Windows\system32 and
> register
> it.
>
> To register it you go:
>
> START > RUN > and type REGSVR32 shell32.dll and
> hit
> OK.
>
> Make sue you put a space between "REGSVR32" and
> "shell32.dll" or it will not work!
>
> That is all there is to it. The system will
> immediately acknowledge if the registration
> has/has
> not been successful.
>
> My copy is approx 8.25 Mb, so it is not small.
>
> I am unclear just how far your system is booting
> up,
> bu I can't see why you can't load the new file and
> register it from the Command Prompt.
>
> Any one chip in here if that is not possible?
>
> Cheers,
>
> John Lehn (Sydney Australia)
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------
>
> --- "Melody (Little Wolf)"
> <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hi...that was the problem...I was doing a
> restore
> > when the electricity went out...it stopped the
> > restore in mid restore...which in turn now some
> of
> > my components are gone...and it won't go back
> > on...just black page comes up with the missing
> > shell.dll pop up...I can't restore or
> anything...I
> > can't get to start...it's black page...the only
> > thing that comes up when I turn on my laptop is
> safe
> > mode, etc...other than that, it's black page and
> > that pop up comes up...I'm not trying to
> > restore...I'm trying to get back on...and undo
> > whatever happened...
> >
> > Mike the mod <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi
> Melody,
> > here are the command prompt restore instructions
> > from Microsoft
> >
> >
> > Start System Restore from the Command Line
> >
>
>
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;304449&spid=1173&sid=global
> >
> > System Restore is a great feature in XP that
> lets
> > you roll back the operating system state to a
> > particular point in time. This can be a
> lifesaver
> > when you install or delete something that causes
> > problems. However, what do you do if things are
> so
> > messed up that you can't access System Restore
> > through the graphical interface? KB article
> 304449
> > tells you how to start the System Restore tool
> from
> > the command prompt.
> >
>
>
http://www.wxpnews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=050816CO-KB_304449
> >
> >
> > Start the System Restore tool at a command
> prompt
> > 1. Restart your computer, and then press F8
> during
> > the initial startup to start your computer in
> Safe
> > Mode with a command prompt.
> >
> > For additional information about the Safe mode
> with
> > a command prompt, click the following article
> number
> > to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge
> Base:
> >
> > 315222 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/)
> A
> > description of the Safe mode boot options in
> Windows
> > XP
> >
> > 2. Log on to your computer with an administrator
> > account or with an account that has
> administrator
> > credentials.
> >
> > 3. Type the following command at a command
> prompt,
> > and then press ENTER:
> >
> > %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
> >
> > 4. Follow the instructions that appear on the
> screen
> > to restore your computer to an earlier state.
> >
> > Mike ~ one of the Moderators
> > It is a good day if I learned something new.
> > Editor MikesWhatsNews http://www.mwn.ca/
> >
> > ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR *********
> >
> > On 4/23/2006 at 8:02 PM Melody wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure what you mean...where I live is way
> out
> > in
> > mountains...I'm 3 hours away from any shopping
> area
> > to get a CD...if
> > I put in a CD won't it lose all I have on it?
> the
> > problem is I can't
> > even get to start or front page with
> anything...it
> > is all
> > black...nothing on it...it died right in middle
> of
> > restore so the
> > laptop didn't get to finish what it was doing
> and I
> > lost
> > components...I can't get back on a page to do
> > anything...except safe
> > mode, and that stuff comes up when I first turn
> it
> > on...maybe I can
> > do a command prompt there???
> >
> > --- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> "Arron
> > Cusimano"
> > <mordain23@...> wrote:
> >
> > My advice is to get a PE boot CD (
> > http://www.ubcd4win.com/ ) and
> > run chkdsk
> > c: /F from the cmd prompt. This usally fixes
> that
> > issue.
> >
> >
> > On 23/04/06, Mike the mod <mikebike@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Melody,
> > what kind of laptop is it?
> > Windows ? 98/ME/2000/XP
> >
> > Do you now have the battery fully charged and
> pluged
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 02:11:30 -0700
From: "Ken Hollingsworth" <kenholl@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Help please
In an Acer laptop with XP Home, my
shell32.dll file is 8,254 kb. I also have:
SHELL32(2).DLL that is 8,128 kb
shell32(2)(2).dll that is 8,141 kb
all are in the //system32 folder
Ken Hollingsworth
On 4/24/06, John Lehn <johnelehn2002@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Melody,
>
> Read further (your problem) and it appears that you
> can't get to a command prompt.
>
> You should be able to do that using a Windows 98 Boot
> Disk, or if you can't get one fom a friend who is
> using Win98, get a boot disk from:
>
> http://www.tweakdoctor.com/bootdisks/
>
> BTW, there are many other sites that provide these
> boot disks.
>
> Then you can copy the missing file (I can send one to
> you) and register it as per pevious advice, from the
> command prompt. I am however still unsure if the XP
> Pro SP2 file is the same as the one for XP Home SP2.
>
> Does anyone know??
>
> John Lehn
> -------------------------------------------------------
> --- Howard <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > When my wifes puter gave that error,it came up when
> > booting,not allowing the puter to boot anything but
> > a black screen that had that "shell32dll missing "
> > at the top.
> >
> > The only way to get any further was to use the 7
> > disks we got from HP.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John Lehn
> > To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 1:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
> >
> >
> > Hi Melody,
> >
> > What a cute name!
> >
> > If all that is wrong is that you have a missing
> > "shell32.dll", then I can't see why you can't copy
> > that from another computer and register it.
> >
> > I am unsure if the XP Home file is the same as the
> > XP
> > Pro file, but if you want to give it a go I can
> > send
> > you a copy of mine (XP PRO SP2) and all you woul
> > need
> > to do is place it in C:\Windows\system32 and
> > register
> > it.
> >
> > To register it you go:
> >
> > START > RUN > and type REGSVR32 shell32.dll and
> > hit
> > OK.
> >
> > Make sue you put a space between "REGSVR32" and
> > "shell32.dll" or it will not work!
> >
> > That is all there is to it. The system will
> > immediately acknowledge if the registration
> > has/has
> > not been successful.
> >
> > My copy is approx 8.25 Mb, so it is not small.
> >
> > I am unclear just how far your system is booting
> > up,
> > bu I can't see why you can't load the new file and
> > register it from the Command Prompt.
> >
> > Any one chip in here if that is not possible?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John Lehn (Sydney Australia)
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > --- "Melody (Little Wolf)"
> > <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi...that was the problem...I was doing a
> > restore
> > > when the electricity went out...it stopped the
> > > restore in mid restore...which in turn now some
> > of
> > > my components are gone...and it won't go back
> > > on...just black page comes up with the missing
> > > shell.dll pop up...I can't restore or
> > anything...I
> > > can't get to start...it's black page...the only
> > > thing that comes up when I turn on my laptop is
> > safe
> > > mode, etc...other than that, it's black page and
> > > that pop up comes up...I'm not trying to
> > > restore...I'm trying to get back on...and undo
> > > whatever happened...
> > >
> > > Mike the mod <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi
> > Melody,
> > > here are the command prompt restore instructions
> > > from Microsoft
> > >
> > >
> > > Start System Restore from the Command Line
> > >
> >
> >
> http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;304449&spid=1173&sid=global
> > >
> > > System Restore is a great feature in XP that
> > lets
> > > you roll back the operating system state to a
> > > particular point in time. This can be a
> > lifesaver
> > > when you install or delete something that causes
> > > problems. However, what do you do if things are
> > so
> > > messed up that you can't access System Restore
> > > through the graphical interface? KB article
> > 304449
> > > tells you how to start the System Restore tool
> > from
> > > the command prompt.
> > >
> >
> >
> http://www.wxpnews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=050816CO-KB_304449
> > >
> > >
> > > Start the System Restore tool at a command
> > prompt
> > > 1. Restart your computer, and then press F8
> > during
> > > the initial startup to start your computer in
> > Safe
> > > Mode with a command prompt.
> > >
> > > For additional information about the Safe mode
> > with
> > > a command prompt, click the following article
> > number
> > > to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge
> > Base:
> > >
> > > 315222 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/)
> > A
> > > description of the Safe mode boot options in
> > Windows
> > > XP
> > >
> > > 2. Log on to your computer with an administrator
> > > account or with an account that has
> > administrator
> > > credentials.
> > >
> > > 3. Type the following command at a command
> > prompt,
> > > and then press ENTER:
> > >
> > > %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
> > >
> > > 4. Follow the instructions that appear on the
> > screen
> > > to restore your computer to an earlier state.
> > >
> > > Mike ~ one of the Moderators
> > > It is a good day if I learned something new.
> > > Editor MikesWhatsNews http://www.mwn.ca/
> > >
> > > ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR *********
> > >
> > > On 4/23/2006 at 8:02 PM Melody wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what you mean...where I live is way
> > out
> > > in
> > > mountains...I'm 3 hours away from any shopping
> > area
> > > to get a CD...if
> > > I put in a CD won't it lose all I have on it?
> > the
> > > problem is I can't
> > > even get to start or front page with
> > anything...it
> > > is all
> > > black...nothing on it...it died right in middle
> > of
> > > restore so the
> > > laptop didn't get to finish what it was doing
> > and I
> > > lost
> > > components...I can't get back on a page to do
> > > anything...except safe
> > > mode, and that stuff comes up when I first turn
> > it
> > > on...maybe I can
> > > do a command prompt there???
> > >
> > > --- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> > "Arron
> > > Cusimano"
> > > <mordain23@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > My advice is to get a PE boot CD (
> > > http://www.ubcd4win.com/ ) and
> > > run chkdsk
> > > c: /F from the cmd prompt. This usally fixes
> > that
> > > issue.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 23/04/06, Mike the mod <mikebike@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Melody,
> > > what kind of laptop is it?
> > > Windows ? 98/ME/2000/XP
> > >
> > > Do you now have the battery fully charged and
> > pluged
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 02:16:28 -0700
From: "Ken Hollingsworth" <kenholl@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Help please
Correction - was looking in my PC folder with XP Pro on it.
my Acer has the same shell32.dll - same size - but not the other ones.
Ken
On 4/24/06, Ken Hollingsworth <jken0411@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In an Acer laptop with XP Home, my
> shell32.dll file is 8,254 kb. I also have:
> SHELL32(2).DLL that is 8,128 kb
> shell32(2)(2).dll that is 8,141 kb
>
> all are in the //system32 folder
>
> Ken Hollingsworth
>
> On 4/24/06, John Lehn <johnelehn2002@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi Melody,
> >
> > Read further (your problem) and it appears that you
> > can't get to a command prompt.
> >
> > You should be able to do that using a Windows 98 Boot
> > Disk, or if you can't get one fom a friend who is
> > using Win98, get a boot disk from:
> >
> > http://www.tweakdoctor.com/bootdisks/
> >
> > BTW, there are many other sites that provide these
> > boot disks.
> >
> > Then you can copy the missing file (I can send one to
> > you) and register it as per pevious advice, from the
> > command prompt. I am however still unsure if the XP
> > Pro SP2 file is the same as the one for XP Home SP2.
> >
> > Does anyone know??
> >
> > John Lehn
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > --- Howard <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > When my wifes puter gave that error,it came up when
> > > booting,not allowing the puter to boot anything but
> > > a black screen that had that "shell32dll missing "
> > > at the top.
> > >
> > > The only way to get any further was to use the 7
> > > disks we got from HP.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: John Lehn
> > > To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 1:49 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Melody,
> > >
> > > What a cute name!
> > >
> > > If all that is wrong is that you have a missing
> > > "shell32.dll", then I can't see why you can't copy
> > > that from another computer and register it.
> > >
> > > I am unsure if the XP Home file is the same as the
> > > XP
> > > Pro file, but if you want to give it a go I can
> > > send
> > > you a copy of mine (XP PRO SP2) and all you woul
> > > need
> > > to do is place it in C:\Windows\system32 and
> > > register
> > > it.
> > >
> > > To register it you go:
> > >
> > > START > RUN > and type REGSVR32 shell32.dll and
> > > hit
> > > OK.
> > >
> > > Make sue you put a space between "REGSVR32" and
> > > "shell32.dll" or it will not work!
> > >
> > > That is all there is to it. The system will
> > > immediately acknowledge if the registration
> > > has/has
> > > not been successful.
> > >
> > > My copy is approx 8.25 Mb, so it is not small.
> > >
> > > I am unclear just how far your system is booting
> > > up,
> > > bu I can't see why you can't load the new file and
> > > register it from the Command Prompt.
> > >
> > > Any one chip in here if that is not possible?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > John Lehn (Sydney Australia)
> > >
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > --- "Melody (Little Wolf)"
> > > <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi...that was the problem...I was doing a
> > > restore
> > > > when the electricity went out...it stopped the
> > > > restore in mid restore...which in turn now some
> > > of
> > > > my components are gone...and it won't go back
> > > > on...just black page comes up with the missing
> > > > shell.dll pop up...I can't restore or
> > > anything...I
> > > > can't get to start...it's black page...the only
> > > > thing that comes up when I turn on my laptop is
> > > safe
> > > > mode, etc...other than that, it's black page and
> > > > that pop up comes up...I'm not trying to
> > > > restore...I'm trying to get back on...and undo
> > > > whatever happened...
> > > >
> > > > Mike the mod <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi
> > > Melody,
> > > > here are the command prompt restore instructions
> > > > from Microsoft
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Start System Restore from the Command Line
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;304449&spid=1173&sid=global
> > > >
> > > > System Restore is a great feature in XP that
> > > lets
> > > > you roll back the operating system state to a
> > > > particular point in time. This can be a
> > > lifesaver
> > > > when you install or delete something that causes
> > > > problems. However, what do you do if things are
> > > so
> > > > messed up that you can't access System Restore
> > > > through the graphical interface? KB article
> > > 304449
> > > > tells you how to start the System Restore tool
> > > from
> > > > the command prompt.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.wxpnews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=050816CO-KB_304449
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Start the System Restore tool at a command
> > > prompt
> > > > 1. Restart your computer, and then press F8
> > > during
> > > > the initial startup to start your computer in
> > > Safe
> > > > Mode with a command prompt.
> > > >
> > > > For additional information about the Safe mode
> > > with
> > > > a command prompt, click the following article
> > > number
> > > > to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge
> > > Base:
> > > >
> > > > 315222 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/)
> > > A
> > > > description of the Safe mode boot options in
> > > Windows
> > > > XP
> > > >
> > > > 2. Log on to your computer with an administrator
> > > > account or with an account that has
> > > administrator
> > > > credentials.
> > > >
> > > > 3. Type the following command at a command
> > > prompt,
> > > > and then press ENTER:
> > > >
> > > > %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
> > > >
> > > > 4. Follow the instructions that appear on the
> > > screen
> > > > to restore your computer to an earlier state.
> > > >
> > > > Mike ~ one of the Moderators
> > > > It is a good day if I learned something new.
> > > > Editor MikesWhatsNews http://www.mwn.ca/
> > > >
> > > > ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR *********
> > > >
> > > > On 4/23/2006 at 8:02 PM Melody wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure what you mean...where I live is way
> > > out
> > > > in
> > > > mountains...I'm 3 hours away from any shopping
> > > area
> > > > to get a CD...if
> > > > I put in a CD won't it lose all I have on it?
> > > the
> > > > problem is I can't
> > > > even get to start or front page with
> > > anything...it
> > > > is all
> > > > black...nothing on it...it died right in middle
> > > of
> > > > restore so the
> > > > laptop didn't get to finish what it was doing
> > > and I
> > > > lost
> > > > components...I can't get back on a page to do
> > > > anything...except safe
> > > > mode, and that stuff comes up when I first turn
> > > it
> > > > on...maybe I can
> > > > do a command prompt there???
> > > >
> > > > --- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> > > "Arron
> > > > Cusimano"
> > > > <mordain23@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My advice is to get a PE boot CD (
> > > > http://www.ubcd4win.com/ ) and
> > > > run chkdsk
> > > > c: /F from the cmd prompt. This usally fixes
> > > that
> > > > issue.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 23/04/06, Mike the mod <mikebike@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Melody,
> > > > what kind of laptop is it?
> > > > Windows ? 98/ME/2000/XP
> > > >
> > > > Do you now have the battery fully charged and
> > > pluged
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 06:33:07 -0400
From: "Mark Mucher" <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Help please
I agree, but you HAVE to boot from the XP CD and use chkdsk /r from the
recovery console.
It will take a couple of hours, go above 50% then jump back to 50% a couple
times - that's normal.
If it doesn't boot normally after running chkdsk /r, then do the XP repair -
Go past the recovery console like you are doing an install, but choose "R"
at the next opportunity. You might think you are wiping your stuff out, but
you won't!
Good luck,
Mark
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Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:00 AM
To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
The files are not missing, she has minor logical filesystem corruption,
preventing the file system from finding the system files required. A chkdsk
will fix it.
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:08:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Help please
Thankyou all for your help but none of it worked....I knew enough not to
reformat because I can't lose all my data and hope I havn't already...I
tried rebooting...I tried the CD in it rebooting, I tried safe mode, I
tried every mode there is on that 1 page I can get...I tried holding down C
as it started up and it went streigth to black page with pop up shell32.dll
was not found...I get that with everythign I try...I can't put in links
when I can't get into my computer front page...there is no place to put a
link on the safe mode page, which is black background also...no place for
me to type anything...so that is why I said I can't get to any store for
this...I guess the only thing I can do is take it to our computer Dr. local
here who charges and arm and a leg..was hoping to save money since I really
don't have it...but I can't wait too long or I'll get behind on my college
courses online...sigh...Thanks anyways for all your advice and
help...Sincerely, Melody
Arron Cusimano <mordain23@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Do not follow Jim's advice to
format you do not not need to format, this
will wipe the data you need.
You need to enable your computer to boot from CD. Jim provided some good
advice on this. Another option is that on some laptops if you hold down the
"C" button during bootup it will start from CD.
option 1:
boot into safemode with command prompt. run "chkdsk c: /f" (without
quotes). when that has finished press ctl-alt-del, task manager will pop up,
choose shutdown -> restart.
option 2:
I provided a link to a web site (i did not mean drive to the shops, that is
what the link is for)
( try http://www.serverninjas.com/ubcd4winfiles/UBCD4WinV26.exe )
in my earlier post that enables you to download a file which you can burn to
CD, you can then boot from that CD to rescue your system. This CD contains a
windows setup that runs totally off CD, if you manage to boot it up, go to
the menu and choose command prompt. Then in the prompt type "chkdsk c: /f"
without the quotes. this will fix your problem, i have done this many times,
with exactly your problem.
option 3:
if you have a windows xp install disk (not a Dell recover disk, which usally
just wipe your system and restore a disk image), boot from it, press R to
enter the recovery console, then type "chkdsk c: /p" (note this is different
to the above command).
option 4:
just wipe the thing and reinstall, or take it to your local tech if you want
your data. but trust me you do not need to wipe it to make it work, or
recover your files.
On 24/04/06, Jim <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Melody,
>
>
> >I was restoring to previous day, laptop turned off in middle of restoring
>
> Best not to do anything like that on battery. But you should have been
> able
> to restart without such a disaster.
>
> Anyway, follow my instructions in my previous message. You have to boot
> with
> the XP CD and that will only happen if the machine is configured to boot
> from a CD. Do not choose any option other than to reformat the C
> partition.
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:23:38 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Help please
Howard,
> Actually ,we never had an origonal disk.
These days computers don't come with rescue disks, instead they have a
special partition, often hidden, to recover after problems. Trouble with
this is that if your 'puter gets really clobbered you may not have access
to
the rescur process. Some computers run a message at startup reminding you
to
create the rescue disks if the machine as a CD or DVD burner. one should
always do this as soon as possible, then save the disk(s) in a safe place.
Jim
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:28:41 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
Estavi,
> But the reluctance to a "full" restore is well based.
>
> 1. Of course, the full restore not only wipes out
> everything on my C: drive BUT also the other 4 data
> partitions Ihave creasted !
Yes, sometimes the option to restore only to the C drive is either not
available or not well explained. If the option message says something like
'format the hard drive' that may mean just that. SO ALWAYS KEEP YOUR DATA
BACKED UP. Like Estavi I have other data partitions. And I long ago started
trying the rescue disk/partition option so I would know how it worked, what
it actually did. Now I can usually do it without clobbering my data
partition. Even if I do, I have my data also backed up on an external hard
drive. AND on data DVDs and three other machines. :-) Talk about belt and
suspenders. :-)
Jim
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:32:39 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
Estavi,
> One suggestion: Find a site for a major power supply
> mfr and read their specs.
Yes, that's a good idea for anyone who hopes to do his own mainenance
and/or
repairs. I have to be dragged kicking and screaming to a repair person
since
I doubt that many know what they are doing beyond the things that I can do
myself. And some probably should rate only slighly below used car salesmen
on the Don't Trust These Gusy scale. :-)
Jim
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:34:38 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
Estavi
> One suggestion: Find a site for a major power supply
> mfr and read their specs.
Unfortunately I'd guess that the mother board has more to do with whether a
computer will spontaneously reboot/shutdown if the supply voltage dips.
Jim
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:40:39 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Help please
Mark,
> Why not do a repair?
> Otherwise, she would lose all her data.
I assume you mean using the XP disk. That IS an option, I have not found
that it works often but I agree, she should try that first.
Jim
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:36:51 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: HOWARD PC SHUTS DOWN W/O WARNING!
Howard,
>I think I can get memory stick from Best Buy.
But you had better be certain that you know which stick you need. Best Buy
guys are not known for knowing anything. :-) Not their fault, they do their
best. I would try Crucial.com first, you can state the computer make and
model and get the memory stick requirements. Maybe you could then compare
prices.
Jim
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:51:56 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Help please
Estavi,
> Much to my dismay, I discovered
> the hard way, that my HP's restore disks wipes out and
> re-formats the ENTIRE hard drive (not just C:). I am
> going to get an external Hd for backups.
That is an excellent idea, and if one can't afford one use the burner and
CDR/W disk so that you can just update them from time to time.
As for the rescue disks wiping out the whole drive, I think this varies
with
the company and with the options offered. Somtimes that language is
confusing.
I would recommend to those who buy a new computer before installing any
new
applications find out how your rescue process works. You can often start
the
process just to see the language used, then cancel before doing it. Write
down the wording on each option. Maybe the system help file will give you a
clue. Most companies add their own information to the one supplied by MS.
And the computers on line manual, you don't often get a printed one that is
worth the bother.
If you have the nerve, try the rescue process yourself. Then you will know
how it works. then no panic if things 'go South'.
Jim
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:53:39 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Help please
Howard,
>but a black screen that had that "shell32dll missing " at the top.
I have the missing file message and when offered I chose to ignore, then
there was another and another, etc. :-(
Jim
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:55:24 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Help please
John,
> You should be able to do that using a Windows 98 Boot
> Disk, or if you can't get one fom a friend who is
> using Win98, get a boot disk from:
I'm not sure that will be helpful since 98 will not see NTFS disks.
Jim
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:37:59 -0500
From: "Jim" <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re: Yahoo group messages
Gina,
>I have waited a week.,,, still receiving numerous individual emails
> messages from this group. I am on "no emails" and they have not
> stopped..
Recheck your account settings, maybe it did not stick.
Jim
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:15:50 -0400
From: "Mark Mucher" <mmucher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Help please
Melody,
You really need to get it to boot from the CD - then you can fix it
yourself.
Please describe the model number of your Dell and describe the XP CD you are
trying to boot from.
Mark
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[mailto:mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Melody (Little
Wolf)
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 11:09 AM
To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
Thankyou all for your help but none of it worked....I knew enough not to
reformat because I can't lose all my data and hope I havn't already...I
tried rebooting...I tried the CD in it rebooting, I tried safe mode, I tried
every mode there is on that 1 page I can get...I tried holding down C as it
started up and it went streigth to black page with pop up shell32.dll was
not found...I get that with everythign I try...I can't put in links when I
can't get into my computer front page...there is no place to put a link on
the safe mode page, which is black background also...no place for me to type
anything...so that is why I said I can't get to any store for this...I guess
the only thing I can do is take it to our computer Dr. local here who
charges and arm and a leg..was hoping to save money since I really don't
have it...but I can't wait too long or I'll get behind on my college courses
online...sigh...Thanks anyways for all your advice and help...Sincerely,
Melody
Arron Cusimano <mordain23@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Do not follow Jim's advice to
format you do not not need to format, this
will wipe the data you need.
You need to enable your computer to boot from CD. Jim provided some good
advice on this. Another option is that on some laptops if you hold down the
"C" button during bootup it will start from CD.
option 1:
boot into safemode with command prompt. run "chkdsk c: /f" (without
quotes). when that has finished press ctl-alt-del, task manager will pop up,
choose shutdown -> restart.
option 2:
I provided a link to a web site (i did not mean drive to the shops, that is
what the link is for)
( try http://www.serverninjas.com/ubcd4winfiles/UBCD4WinV26.exe )
in my earlier post that enables you to download a file which you can burn to
CD, you can then boot from that CD to rescue your system. This CD contains a
windows setup that runs totally off CD, if you manage to boot it up, go to
the menu and choose command prompt. Then in the prompt type "chkdsk c: /f"
without the quotes. this will fix your problem, i have done this many times,
with exactly your problem.
option 3:
if you have a windows xp install disk (not a Dell recover disk, which usally
just wipe your system and restore a disk image), boot from it, press R to
enter the recovery console, then type "chkdsk c: /p" (note this is different
to the above command).
option 4:
just wipe the thing and reinstall, or take it to your local tech if you want
your data. but trust me you do not need to wipe it to make it work, or
recover your files.
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:17:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Help please
HI Everyone that is helping me...smiles...true, I cannot get to a command
prompt...only by hitting F8 many times while starting up I can get to
windows advanced options menu where the safe mode, boot logging choices
menu is...I tried each and everyone of those and none work...all lead to
black screen with error msg. shell32.dll is missing...that isn't exact
words but basically what is said...I had windows 2000 and lots of extra's
on my laptop and also my college work...I think it was home edition because
that is the operating system CD I have...I think the Pro would work fine
too but gives me extra stuff...grins...is there a way someone can fix this
from their own computer? the problem might be I do have a firewall and
protection on it before it went out...I am at a desk top computer of a
friends...but I am not sure how to do this and also they don't have a boot
disk...nor any knowledge of computer skills...lol...I was hoping to fix
this today as I'm going out of town
tonight for the week on a business trip so needed my laptop...before
taking it to expensive shop, can anyone help me? Thanks for all of your
help, Melody....p.s. Thanks John for compliment of my name...it was given
to me because our family is musically inclined and also my mother was a top
model and had a friend named Melody who also modeled...and she loved the
name...so she made up her mind Melody was the name for me...I like it
excepting when she used to yell my name at me...hehe
John Lehn <johnelehn2002@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Melody,
Read further (your problem) and it appears that you
can't get to a command prompt.
You should be able to do that using a Windows 98 Boot
Disk, or if you can't get one fom a friend who is
using Win98, get a boot disk from:
http://www.tweakdoctor.com/bootdisks/
BTW, there are many other sites that provide these
boot disks.
Then you can copy the missing file (I can send one to
you) and register it as per pevious advice, from the
command prompt. I am however still unsure if the XP
Pro SP2 file is the same as the one for XP Home SP2.
Does anyone know??
John Lehn
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--- Howard <esrman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> When my wifes puter gave that error,it came up when
> booting,not allowing the puter to boot anything but
> a black screen that had that "shell32dll missing "
> at the top.
>
> The only way to get any further was to use the 7
> disks we got from HP.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Lehn
> To: mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 1:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [MCH] Help please
>
>
> Hi Melody,
>
> What a cute name!
>
> If all that is wrong is that you have a missing
> "shell32.dll", then I can't see why you can't copy
> that from another computer and register it.
>
> I am unsure if the XP Home file is the same as the
> XP
> Pro file, but if you want to give it a go I can
> send
> you a copy of mine (XP PRO SP2) and all you woul
> need
> to do is place it in C:\Windows\system32 and
> register
> it.
>
> To register it you go:
>
> START > RUN > and type REGSVR32 shell32.dll and
> hit
> OK.
>
> Make sue you put a space between "REGSVR32" and
> "shell32.dll" or it will not work!
>
> That is all there is to it. The system will
> immediately acknowledge if the registration
> has/has
> not been successful.
>
> My copy is approx 8.25 Mb, so it is not small.
>
> I am unclear just how far your system is booting
> up,
> bu I can't see why you can't load the new file and
> register it from the Command Prompt.
>
> Any one chip in here if that is not possible?
>
> Cheers,
>
> John Lehn (Sydney Australia)
>
>
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>
> --- "Melody (Little Wolf)"
> <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hi...that was the problem...I was doing a
> restore
> > when the electricity went out...it stopped the
> > restore in mid restore...which in turn now some
> of
> > my components are gone...and it won't go back
> > on...just black page comes up with the missing
> > shell.dll pop up...I can't restore or
> anything...I
> > can't get to start...it's black page...the only
> > thing that comes up when I turn on my laptop is
> safe
> > mode, etc...other than that, it's black page and
> > that pop up comes up...I'm not trying to
> > restore...I'm trying to get back on...and undo
> > whatever happened...
> >
> > Mike the mod <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi
> Melody,
> > here are the command prompt restore instructions
> > from Microsoft
> >
> >
> > Start System Restore from the Command Line
> >
>
>
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;304449&spid=1173&sid=global
> >
> > System Restore is a great feature in XP that
> lets
> > you roll back the operating system state to a
> > particular point in time. This can be a
> lifesaver
> > when you install or delete something that causes
> > problems. However, what do you do if things are
> so
> > messed up that you can't access System Restore
> > through the graphical interface? KB article
> 304449
> > tells you how to start the System Restore tool
> from
> > the command prompt.
> >
>
>
http://www.wxpnews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=050816CO-KB_304449
> >
> >
> > Start the System Restore tool at a command
> prompt
> > 1. Restart your computer, and then press F8
> during
> > the initial startup to start your computer in
> Safe
> > Mode with a command prompt.
> >
> > For additional information about the Safe mode
> with
> > a command prompt, click the following article
> number
> > to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge
> Base:
> >
> > 315222 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/)
> A
> > description of the Safe mode boot options in
> Windows
> > XP
> >
> > 2. Log on to your computer with an administrator
> > account or with an account that has
> administrator
> > credentials.
> >
> > 3. Type the following command at a command
> prompt,
> > and then press ENTER:
> >
> > %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
> >
> > 4. Follow the instructions that appear on the
> screen
> > to restore your computer to an earlier state.
> >
> > Mike ~ one of the Moderators
> > It is a good day if I learned something new.
> > Editor MikesWhatsNews http://www.mwn.ca/
> >
> > ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR *********
> >
> > On 4/23/2006 at 8:02 PM Melody wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure what you mean...where I live is way
> out
> > in
> > mountains...I'm 3 hours away from any shopping
> area
> > to get a CD...if
> > I put in a CD won't it lose all I have on it?
> the
> > problem is I can't
> > even get to start or front page with
> anything...it
> > is all
> > black...nothing on it...it died right in middle
> of
> > restore so the
> > laptop didn't get to finish what it was doing
> and I
> > lost
> > components...I can't get back on a page to do
> > anything...except safe
> > mode, and that stuff comes up when I first turn
> it
> > on...maybe I can
> > do a command prompt there???
> >
> > --- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> "Arron
> > Cusimano"
> > <mordain23@...> wrote:
> >
> > My advice is to get a PE boot CD (
> > http://www.ubcd4win.com/ ) and
> > run chkdsk
> > c: /F from the cmd prompt. This usally fixes
> that
> > issue.
> >
> >
> > On 23/04/06, Mike the mod <mikebike@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Melody,
> > what kind of laptop is it?
> > Windows ? 98/ME/2000/XP
> >
> > Do you now have the battery fully charged and
> pluged
>
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:26:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Help please
AGain thank you for compliment...yes, it seems all that is wrong is missing
shell32.dll...how can I copy from another computer and register it? I'm not
that computer literate...but I do know a little bit due to problems with
viruses, etc. in past...I do know XP home is a little different than
pro...the difference is pro has a little more on it but same stuff as
home...so it wouldn't hurt to use that, it would just give me more stuff on
my computer...smiles...the problem with getting it to C: is I cannot get to
C drive or anything...I can't get to any windows or nothing...only windows
advanced options menu and then no matter what I do it goes to black screen
with that error msg. of lost shell32.dll...Thanks, MElody
John Lehn <johnelehn2002@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Melody,
What a cute name!
If all that is wrong is that you have a missing
"shell32.dll", then I can't see why you can't copy
that from another computer and register it.
I am unsure if the XP Home file is the same as the XP
Pro file, but if you want to give it a go I can send
you a copy of mine (XP PRO SP2) and all you woul need
to do is place it in C:\Windows\system32 and register
it.
To register it you go:
START > RUN > and type REGSVR32 shell32.dll and hit
OK.
Make sue you put a space between "REGSVR32" and
"shell32.dll" or it will not work!
That is all there is to it. The system will
immediately acknowledge if the registration has/has
not been successful.
My copy is approx 8.25 Mb, so it is not small.
I am unclear just how far your system is booting up,
bu I can't see why you can't load the new file and
register it from the Command Prompt.
Any one chip in here if that is not possible?
Cheers,
John Lehn (Sydney Australia)
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--- "Melody (Little Wolf)"
<little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi...that was the problem...I was doing a restore
> when the electricity went out...it stopped the
> restore in mid restore...which in turn now some of
> my components are gone...and it won't go back
> on...just black page comes up with the missing
> shell.dll pop up...I can't restore or anything...I
> can't get to start...it's black page...the only
> thing that comes up when I turn on my laptop is safe
> mode, etc...other than that, it's black page and
> that pop up comes up...I'm not trying to
> restore...I'm trying to get back on...and undo
> whatever happened...
>
> Mike the mod <mikebike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Melody,
> here are the command prompt restore instructions
> from Microsoft
>
>
> Start System Restore from the Command Line
>
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;304449&spid=1173&sid=global
>
> System Restore is a great feature in XP that lets
> you roll back the operating system state to a
> particular point in time. This can be a lifesaver
> when you install or delete something that causes
> problems. However, what do you do if things are so
> messed up that you can't access System Restore
> through the graphical interface? KB article 304449
> tells you how to start the System Restore tool from
> the command prompt.
>
http://www.wxpnews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=050816CO-KB_304449
>
>
> Start the System Restore tool at a command prompt
> 1. Restart your computer, and then press F8 during
> the initial startup to start your computer in Safe
> Mode with a command prompt.
>
> For additional information about the Safe mode with
> a command prompt, click the following article number
> to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
>
> 315222 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/) A
> description of the Safe mode boot options in Windows
> XP
>
> 2. Log on to your computer with an administrator
> account or with an account that has administrator
> credentials.
>
> 3. Type the following command at a command prompt,
> and then press ENTER:
>
> %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
>
> 4. Follow the instructions that appear on the screen
> to restore your computer to an earlier state.
>
> Mike ~ one of the Moderators
> It is a good day if I learned something new.
> Editor MikesWhatsNews http://www.mwn.ca/
>
> ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR *********
>
> On 4/23/2006 at 8:02 PM Melody wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what you mean...where I live is way out
> in
> mountains...I'm 3 hours away from any shopping area
> to get a CD...if
> I put in a CD won't it lose all I have on it? the
> problem is I can't
> even get to start or front page with anything...it
> is all
> black...nothing on it...it died right in middle of
> restore so the
> laptop didn't get to finish what it was doing and I
> lost
> components...I can't get back on a page to do
> anything...except safe
> mode, and that stuff comes up when I first turn it
> on...maybe I can
> do a command prompt there???
>
> --- In mycomputerheadaches@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Arron
> Cusimano"
> <mordain23@...> wrote:
>
> My advice is to get a PE boot CD (
> http://www.ubcd4win.com/ ) and
> run chkdsk
> c: /F from the cmd prompt. This usally fixes that
> issue.
>
>
> On 23/04/06, Mike the mod <mikebike@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Melody,
> what kind of laptop is it?
> Windows ? 98/ME/2000/XP
>
> Do you now have the battery fully charged and pluged
> into the
> power block
> to keep it charged up?
>
> Mike
> ******* Mike's REPLY SEPARATOR *********
>
>
> On 4/23/2006 at 5:23 AM Melody wrote:
>
> I really screwed up...I tried to restore just back 1
> day because
> I had
> problems with instant messenger...well, in middle of
> restore the
> battery died, power went out...now I try to log into
> my laptop
> and it
> says shell.something is not there so it wont' even
> go to front
> page...it's like a dead laptop...I'm so upset...I'm
> on a friends
> computer...but I do my college work on my
> laptop...is there any
> way to
> get in and back to normal? I can't find my CD's...I
> think they are
> packed adn in storage...is there another way like
> when I first
> turn on
> laptop hit F something and type on it to get it back
> to normal
> again?
> and not lose all I had on it...sigh...Thanks, Melody
>
>
>
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:27:05 -0400
From: "T. Hunt" <roversouth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Help please
There are 2 kinds of CD's that come with systems; restore CD's and
installation CD's. The restore CD's are made by the manufacturer and
usually contain a compressed disk image, which the restore program will
uncompress and write back to the harddrive, bringing the system back to
a 'new' condition. This will usually overwrite or wipe out any data on
the harddrive at the time. I take it that this is NOT what you want to
do, as you have data (schoolwork) on the harddrive that you want to save.
If this is the case, what you'll need to try is a repair of the
operating system. For this, you'll need an installation CD. These are
made by Microsoft and are either OEM or retail. I would try to borrow
one from a friend. Any Windows CD will work if it is the correct
version and service pack.
You will need to know what your operating system version is: Windows XP
Home, Windows XP Pro, Windows 2000, Windows 98SE, etc. You will also
need to know what service pack was installed. This will be SP1 or SP2
for Windows XP and up thru SP4 for Windows 2000.
Once you have an installation CD that matches your OS and service pack,
you'll need to set the laptop to boot from the CD before the harddrive.
From the posts so far, that doesn't seem to be the case. You'll need
to get into the BIOS (same as entering Setup) to change the boot order.
If you post the make and model of your laptop, we may be able to help
with that.
Once you can boot from the CD, you'll proceed just as if you were going
to install the OS. You'll come to a screen that asks if you want to
install Windows XP (I'm assuming you have Windows XP). Say YES to this
option. The install routine will now look for a previous install of
Windows XP and ask if you want to repair that installation or install a
new one. Choose to repair the existing installation. Have your Product
Key available. It should be on a sticker on the side of the machine; 5
groups of 5 characters. Let the install routine proceed. The system
will eventually reboot. When it does, DO NOT hit a key to enable
booting from the CD. Just let windows boot normally and you should be
back in business. You will need to go online and get whatever patches
and updates were issued since the service pack but that should be no big
deal.
HTH Tom
Melody (Little Wolf) wrote:
> Thankyou all for your help but none of it worked....I knew enough not to
reformat because I can't lose all my data and hope I havn't already...I
tried rebooting...I tried the CD in it rebooting, I tried safe mode, I
tried every mode there is on that 1 page I can get...I tried holding down C
as it started up and it went streigth to black page with pop up shell32.dll
was not found...I get that with everythign I try...I can't put in links
when I can't get into my computer front page...there is no place to put a
link on the safe mode page, which is black background also...no place for
me to type anything...so that is why I said I can't get to any store for
this...I guess the only thing I can do is take it to our computer Dr. local
here who charges and arm and a leg..was hoping to save money since I really
don't have it...but I can't wait too long or I'll get behind on my college
courses online...sigh...Thanks anyways for all your advice and
help...Sincerely, Melody
>
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:32:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Melody \(Little Wolf\)" <little_wolf_melody@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Help please
HI..Thanks so much...best advice...I guess It would be best to go to local
shop...they should have the boot CD and can repair it...there are two here
so I'll see who has best price after I explain to them what is going on and
what possibly needs to be done...I would never take advantage of my friends
and offer money or dinner...smiles...but no friends with CD to help...so
shop it is...and yes, I learned not to do anything on my battery...it
usually lasts at least a half hour...I understand most last 3-4 hours...but
I got a cheap one so that's what I get...grins...I usually don't do
anything on it on battery unless it's playing computer games and then it
shuts off...but from now on AC power is best and I'll try to get a good new
battery for it...Thanks for the help...I truly appreciate this group adn
all the help I received...Hugs to all, Melody
casper <officialbizniz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Lots of good tech gurus here.
WOW! I'm glad I'm in this group :)
Terry Stockdale <terry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Melody,
I suggest that you take it to your local computer shop. It is
possible, if you really have an OS CDROM and not a "Restore
CD", that the shop can boot the CD, go into a "repair mode" and
resolve the problem.
If you have a friend who is a super computer repair guru, you can
call him or her. You should expect that they do this as a side
business, not as "free for friends" work.
The process is not straight forward and there are a lot of variations
(if this, I need to do that...) that are only learned from experience
and actually having hands on the malfunctioning machine.
Regarding battery use -- you learned (I hope) never to do critical
system things on battery power. Once your laptop is up and running,
see what happens when you have it plugged in and then unplug the
power -- does the battery keep the computer running without an
automatic reboot? I've seen notebooks that could run on battery or
on AC but the battery wouldn't keep the unit up if the AC went off.
For desktop users, any kind of defrag, restore, etc -- be sure you
use a UPS -- or you can be in the same situation.
Terry
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At 09:27 PM 4/23/2006, you wrote:
>I only have a operating system CD which is for reinstallation of
>microsoft windows xp home edition including service pack 2...in safe
>mode at top of black page it says it is working properly...but I am
>missing the shell32.dll component so I can't get into the front page
>it goes to automatically...it's like maybe no memory? I don't
>know...it all happened when it was restoring and the laptop shut
>off...not on purpose but due to battery died...so I'm thinking it
>lost stuff in it's memory or I really have no idea...Melody
>
>Jim <jpurcell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Melody,
>
> > OH no...I even put in my recovery CD and it's not working either...still
> > goes to black screen and pop up window stating winlogon.exe unable to
> > locate component.
>
>Sound like you did not reboot with the recovery CD. If you choose to
recover
>by reformatting the drive, or better still only C if you have more than one
>partition, this will bypass the hard drive and any errors that may be on
it.
>Or is the CD drive failing?
>
>Jim
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:43:10 -0500
From: "Annie" <tulsaannie@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re: Yahoo group messages
Duh!!! You are right, it had gone back to individual emails. Thanks Annie
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Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 10:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [MCH] Re: Yahoo group messages
Gina,
>I have waited a week.,,, still receiving numerous individual emails
> messages from this group. I am on "no emails" and they have not
> stopped..
Recheck your account settings, maybe it did not stick.
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