If it helps, to inscribe rituals in a warlocks book of shadows, it costs 50gp
(total cost) for the magically infused inks, and two hours per level of the
spell (Lv 3 spell= 6 hours)
On Wednesday, 21 August 2019, 10:34:34 BST, Peter Coffey
<peter.coffey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think that being able to make scrolls is something that isn't supported at
this stage of the game.
E.g.
After a 2 week tour of the bush you have produced 3 scrolls of fireball.
A level 1 party would then have access to it. That doesn't seem sensible or
coherent.
So:
What's the limiting factors on scrolls?
- ability to use them
- knowledge on how to make them
- ability to make them
- the cost of making them (material components plus???)
WOTC clearly can't make up it's mind on whether it's:
A) everyone
B) only people who can already cast that spell.
The most thematic restriction would be that the knowledge of making them is
lost.
Can wizard's make their own personal spell scrolls? They (and some warlocks and
those with the Ritual Caster feat) can copy (some ritual) spells. Some casters
can cast rituals from their books.
My thinking is that this implies Scrolls use a more specialised magical
language where a phrase in say common, is used as a trigger to cast a spell
that has verbal, somatic and material components with only verbal parts and an
action.
This implies that:
Counterspell against a scroll is much more difficult. The common phrase is
nonsense magically speaking (and probably in common to prevent it going off in
your pocket) (think activating Bucky in Civil War. A series of unrelated nouns
that takes 3-4 seconds to rattle off.)
This to me also implies that making them would be hard. You'd probably want to
be a prepared caster with a degree of intelligence. This looks like a feat,
probably Int 13, can prepare spells, is proficent in Common and The language of
scrolls (currently unavailable).
Scroll Scribe: You can create spell scrolls. The spell must be a spell you can
prepare and of a level you can cast.
The spell is prepared at its base level, e.g. you could not prepare a 5th
level magic missile.
The creation of the spell scroll consumes:
1) special ink and paper with a cost = ?× level
2) a number of days = level of spell(?)
The creation of a spell scroll is a lengthy and time-consuming intricate
process whereby a non caster or caster from a different tradition may cast the
spell and is best done in downtime.
Copying Scrolls
Copying a spell scroll "as is", has the same pre - requisites as creating it.
The knowledge of how to perform the spell is vital and the intricate magic
structures are sensitive to the will and intent of the copier. This suggests
printing press experiments and so forth are unlikely to succeed.
Learning from a spell scroll is as per PHB.
where are the loopholes? :)
Peter
On Wed, 21 Aug 2019, 09:45 Adam Gooding, <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I like the idea of anyone being able to use a scroll, but will spell level play
into this at all?
Eg. If I made a spell scroll of fireball, could a level 1 Fighter cast it?
On 21 Aug 2019, at 01:06, James Atkinson (Redacted sender "atkinsonjames63" for
DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I can go with that, They are one use items and can give us an edge to an
encounter if we are laying in ambush
On Tuesday, 20 August 2019, 23:45:38 BST, Peter Coffey
<peter.coffey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Spell scrolls.
"DMG pg. 200, spell scroll, where it states “If the spell is on your class's
spell list you can use an action to read the scroll and cast its spell without
having to provide any of the spell's component. Otherwise, the scroll is
unintelligible.”
DMG pg. 139, scrolls, it states “Any creature that can understand a written
language can read the arcane script on a scroll and attempt to activate it.”
The Sage Advice Compendium tries to have it both ways by claiming both are
correct, and attempts to differentiate between “scrolls” and “spell scrolls”.
But there aren’t a lot of scrolls which aren’t also spell scrolls. And their
own description of reading a non-spell scroll even includes the text “...and it
allows you to try to activate a spell if you’re literate.” So I find the
compendium “clarification” unsatisfactory."
My personal thinking is: if you can read a scroll then you can cast using a
scroll. Makes them more useful and therefore better treasure in a game where
treasure has been a bit scarce to date.
Thoughts from casters? Does this make you less special?
