That's a useful baseline for the individual process. No one else can use
your spellbook (I think?)
If scrolls can be used by anyone, then they will be a lot harder to make.
They're doing something that normally requires components and movement and
speech in a one-er!
On Wed, 21 Aug 2019, 12:21 James Atkinson, <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
If it helps, to inscribe rituals in a warlocks book of shadows, it costs
50gp (total cost) for the magically infused inks, and two hours per level
of the spell (Lv 3 spell= 6 hours)
On Wednesday, 21 August 2019, 10:34:34 BST, Peter Coffey <
peter.coffey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think that being able to make scrolls is something that isn't supported
at this stage of the game.
E.g.
After a 2 week tour of the bush you have produced 3 scrolls of fireball.
A level 1 party would then have access to it. That doesn't seem sensible
or coherent.
So:
What's the limiting factors on scrolls?
- ability to use them
- knowledge on how to make them
- ability to make them
- the cost of making them (material components plus???)
WOTC clearly can't make up it's mind on whether it's:
A) everyone
B) only people who can already cast that spell.
The most thematic restriction would be that the knowledge of making them
is lost.
Can wizard's make their own personal spell scrolls? They (and some
warlocks and those with the Ritual Caster feat) can copy (some ritual)
spells. Some casters can cast rituals from their books.
My thinking is that this implies Scrolls use a more specialised magical
language where a phrase in say common, is used as a trigger to cast a spell
that has verbal, somatic and material components with only verbal parts and
an action.
This implies that:
Counterspell against a scroll is much more difficult. The common phrase
is nonsense magically speaking (and probably in common to prevent it going
off in your pocket) (think activating Bucky in Civil War. A series of
unrelated nouns that takes 3-4 seconds to rattle off.)
This to me also implies that making them would be hard. You'd probably
want to be a prepared caster with a degree of intelligence. This looks
like a feat, probably Int 13, can prepare spells, is proficent in Common
and The language of scrolls (currently unavailable).
Scroll Scribe:
You can create spell scrolls. The spell must be a spell you can prepare
and of a level you can cast.
The spell is prepared at its base level, e.g. you could not prepare a 5th
level magic missile.
The creation of the spell scroll consumes:
1) special ink and paper with a cost = ?× level
2) a number of days = level of spell(?)
The creation of a spell scroll is a lengthy and time-consuming intricate
process whereby a non caster or caster from a different tradition may cast
the spell and is best done in downtime.
Copying Scrolls
Copying a spell scroll "as is", has the same pre - requisites as creating
it. The knowledge of how to perform the spell is vital and the intricate
magic structures are sensitive to the will and intent of the copier. This
suggests printing press experiments and so forth are unlikely to succeed.
Learning from a spell scroll is as per PHB.
where are the loopholes? :)
Peter
On Wed, 21 Aug 2019, 09:45 Adam Gooding, <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I like the idea of anyone being able to use a scroll, but will spell level
play into this at all?
Eg. If I made a spell scroll of fireball, could a level 1 Fighter cast it?
On 21 Aug 2019, at 01:06, James Atkinson (Redacted sender
"atkinsonjames63" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I can go with that, They are one use items and can give us an edge to an
encounter if we are laying in ambush
On Tuesday, 20 August 2019, 23:45:38 BST, Peter Coffey <
peter.coffey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Spell scrolls.
"DMG pg. 200, *spell scroll*, where it states “If the spell is on your
class's spell list you can use an action to read the scroll and cast its
spell without having to provide any of the spell's component. Otherwise,
the scroll is unintelligible.”
DMG pg. 139, *scrolls*, it states “Any creature that can understand a
written language can read the arcane script on a scroll and attempt to
activate it.”
The Sage Advice Compendium tries to have it both ways by claiming both are
correct, and attempts to differentiate between “scrolls” and “spell
scrolls”. But there aren’t a lot of scrolls which aren’t also spell
scrolls. And their own description of reading a non-spell scroll even
includes the text “...and it allows you to try to activate a spell if
you’re literate.” So I find the compendium “clarification” unsatisfactory."
My personal thinking is: if you can read a scroll then you can cast using
a scroll. Makes them more useful and therefore better treasure in a game
where treasure has been a bit scarce to date.
Thoughts from casters? Does this make you less special?
