Hi Ricardo!I think you are right! I'd like better to see iWork 9.1 made more accessible. At work, most computers are M.S. Windows and I don't think that we should take our equipment to the place where we work, the same conditions should be given to us. I don't remember seeing the other teachers that work with me bringing their computers all the time to school for exemple. They just bring their laptops when they need them. Otherwise, they use school's equipment every day to do everything. Any way, what I think is extremely important to improve their software accessibility, is the feedback that we can give to Apple submiting what we think that stil needs some work and they are going to listen and do what needs to be done. We just can not wait for others to do so. Instead acting like "MacMacs" (lol), we have to help Apple improve the accessibility.
All the best Cristina Afonso----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:09 AM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: what do we do about productivity on the mac? Hi,since we are talking about the workplace, and almost every office in the world uses windows, isn't this kind of a pointless argument? I'm not saying MS Office shouldn't be made accessible on the Mac but, I think improving iWork is even more important mainly because its the point of least resistance. Before we can even worry about office being accessible on the Mac to improve working conditions for the blind, don't we need Macs in the workplace first?
JMO. Ricardo Walker rwalker296@xxxxxxxxx Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Sep 1, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Marcy Weinberg wrote:
To make this clear, we are talking about the workplace, and Microsoft is the ruler there. This is why it is so important for us to get Microsoft to make Office accessible.From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: September 1, 2011 5:21:34 PM EDT To: VO List <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: what do we do about productivity on the mac? Reply-To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Please don't contact Microsoft about any of this! They've messed up Office 2007 in Windows badly enough in addition to doing a bad copy of the Macintosh environment for Windows I don't want them making anything on the mac accessible. Better they should make Windows as installable as Mac OSX is with speech coming on at the beginning of that process first. Then those that must use windows at home at least will be able to reinstall it without sighted assistance when it gets compromised by the latest malware. One of the reasons I look forward to retirement is I'll be able to go through a whole day with a computer and not be required to use anything made by Microsoft. Accessible versions of OpenOffice have been available for some time by now and OpenOffice has the active support of 10 corporations behind it rather than one corporation. The more brains, the better the product. On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Marcy Weinberg wrote:Hello, everyone,I saw this message on another list, and felt it was important enough to post here.spreadsheets and documents and presentations, oh my!Many blind folk are successfully employed for performing tasks which involve the above and have been for many years. Few if any though are using the mac for many reasons but I want to focus on moving forward in areas in which we can move forward and to focus your attention and seek your assistance with those.We need gallant folk to step up to Microsoft and shout out that office needs to be made accessible in order that the market for blind employees will be wider. To do this, folk must provide concrete detailed and factual information about the issues of using Microsoft office on the mac. You can even find some good stuff that is already written and submit it to them. I don't have a handle on the Microsoft stream and cannot purchase the product so cannot help directly but am willing to help in any other way I can.We need to provide solid feedback to apple on issues related to IWork from a productivity standpoint. Some employers will be willing to accept a blind person with a mac since we can export office formats and they would be willing to mix systems if they are able.We need to locate employers willing to work with us and rehab or other agencies who are willing to take on the challenge if for nothing less than the potential cost savings.I know that there are a myriad of issues which we face with regard to this ultimate goal of prominent positioning of mac in the work place of the blind, but if we work together, perhaps we can move forward and provide assistance in this important effort.I know that there are efforts ongoing at apple and lots of feedback coming to them which they are paying attention to and which is helping to guide them toward better accessibility. I'd like though to discuss experiences and desires and perhaps translate some of those into meaningful dialog with apple and microsoft.-- MarcyHope you're having a nice day!Click on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceoverJude <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> "I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's got God on his side." ~ Bill HicksClick on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover-- Jonnie Appleseed with his Hands-On Technolog(eye)s reducing technology's disabilities one byte at a time -- Marcy Hope you're having a nice day!Click on the link below to go to our homepage. http://www.icanworkthisthing.com Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover
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