What do you mean by this? On Sep 1, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: I think tinyfugue is available for the mac, but to use it you can't be afraid of the command line. Have you checked out ancientanguish.org yet?On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Rejean Proulx wrote: > Since I retired I mostly use the Mac. I only use Windows for Mud games and > FireFox if I need it. Mind you, Safari is making huge strides such that I > require FireFox less and less. > > As far as corporations go, you use what other employes use, and that is > mostly Windows. Over the passed 5 years I found accessibility of software > used in corporations going down. I don't miss working. It is getting more and > more difficult, not less. The Mac seems to be the only thing improving. I > hope I am not being sower in my old age, I don't think so. > > On 2011-09-01, at 5:21 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >> Please don't contact Microsoft about any of this! They've messed up >> Office 2007 in Windows badly enough in addition to doing a bad copy of >> the Macintosh environment for Windows I don't want them making anything >> on the mac accessible. Better they should make Windows as installable >> as Mac OSX is with speech coming on at the beginning of that process >> first. Then those that must use windows at home at least will be able >> to reinstall it without sighted assistance when it gets compromised by >> the latest malware. One of the reasons I look forward to retirement is >> I'll be able to go through a whole day with a computer and not be >> required to use anything made by Microsoft. Accessible versions of >> OpenOffice have been available for some time by now and OpenOffice has >> the active support of 10 corporations behind it rather than one >> corporation. The more brains, the better the product. >> >> On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Marcy Weinberg wrote: >> >>> Hello, everyone, >>> >>> I saw this message on another list, and felt it was important enough to >>> post here. >>> >>> spreadsheets and documents and presentations, oh my! >>> >>> Many blind folk are successfully employed for performing tasks which >>> involve the above and have been for many years. Few if any though are >>> using the mac for many reasons but I want to focus on moving forward in >>> areas in which we can move forward and to focus your attention and seek >>> your assistance with those. >>> >>> We need gallant folk to step up to Microsoft and shout out that office >>> needs to be made accessible in order that the market for blind employees >>> will be wider. To do this, folk must provide concrete detailed and factual >>> information about the issues of using Microsoft office on the mac. You can >>> even find some good stuff that is already written and submit it to them. I >>> don't have a handle on the Microsoft stream and cannot purchase the product >>> so cannot help directly but am willing to help in any other way I can. >>> >>> We need to provide solid feedback to apple on issues related to IWork from >>> a productivity standpoint. Some employers will be willing to accept a >>> blind person with a mac since we can export office formats and they would >>> be willing to mix systems if they are able. >>> >>> We need to locate employers willing to work with us and rehab or other >>> agencies who are willing to take on the challenge if for nothing less than >>> the potential cost savings. >>> >>> I know that there are a myriad of issues which we face with regard to this >>> ultimate goal of prominent positioning of mac in the work place of the >>> blind, but if we work together, perhaps we can move forward and provide >>> assistance in this important effort. >>> >>> I know that there are efforts ongoing at apple and lots of feedback coming >>> to them which they are paying attention to and which is helping to guide >>> them toward better accessibility. I'd like though to discuss experiences >>> and desires and perhaps translate some of those into meaningful dialog with >>> apple and microsoft. >>> >>> -- >>> Marcy >>> Hope you're having a nice day! >>> >>>> >>>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>>> >>>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>>> >>> >>> >> >> Jude <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> "I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet >> of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's >> got God on his side." >> ~ Bill Hicks >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> > > > > Rejean Proulx > > > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Jude <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> "I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's got God on his side." ~ Bill Hicks > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > -- Marcy Hope you're having a nice day! > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >