Hi Ricardo, I don't agree with you since the bugs I am talking about are bugs from Lion so, everybody can test it on his own system. It's perhaps a miscommunication in my mail that you where thinking that the problems I have described came from 10.8. So, I hope that this is ok for you. On the other hand, is there a accessible list or other way of communication available to speak about problems in pre-released software of Apple and more specific voiceover? In other words: where can I discuss other development related subjects with other blind users of the apple products? Kind regards, William Windels Op 13-jun.-2012, om 00:03 heeft Ricardo Walker het volgende geschreven: > Hi, > > you do realize your breaking the Apple NDA by even talking about this in a > public list right? > > Ricardo Walker > ricardo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jun 12, 2012, at 4:29 PM, William Windels <william.windels@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >> Hello all, >> thx keith for the link with the new features. >> It's not impressive but there are some nice things that looks interesting. >> >> Since I have a developer-account , I am trying to report (voiceover) bugs >> that they can solve perhaps before the public release. >>>> Some of the bugs are: >>>> 1. I can't still import older vo-prefs files even if I put them on a >>>> usb-disc and let them import automatically when voiceover (re)starts. >>>> Could I find a log-file of the import-action somewhere? >>>> >>>> 2. rotor in html-documents: >>>> It can be very difficult sometimes to select links in a html-document like >>>> a >>>> html-mail. I was wondering if it's a bug or not that the rotor is not >>>> working in such mail messages. >>>> >>>> 3. The routing buttons on a braille-device are not always responding by >>>> selecting a letter on a mail (this should not only work with read-write >>>> tekst >>>> but also with read-only tekst)? >> >>>> 4. the nuance speech bug for mail-addresses, websites and, in global, all >>>> strings with a . ( dot ) in the string , is not solved. >> I have the problem with the dutch (Netherlands = Belgian) voice Ellen. >> >> 5. They haven't said anything about the way voiceover handles tables like in >> pages or websites where you can't e.g. search for a form fields while it's >> in a table... >> >> My question to all developers here: pls report any of the bugs above or >> other voiceover bugs so, perhaps they can fix them before the public release. >> >> Kind regards and thx for the attention to this. >> William Windels >>>> On 12-jun.-2012, om 21:52 heeft Jeff Kisecker het volgende geschreven: >> >>> Looks interesting, I'm not sure I'll upgrade for a while yet, I think I >>> want to see how accessible it really is before I make the jump this time. >>> >>> >>> On Jun 12, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: >>> >>>> Folks, >>>> >>>> Here is an over view of accessibility in Mountain Lion. I did not see >>>> anything that I can't live with out, but, maybe you will. >>>> http://www.apple.com/osx/whats-new/features.html#accessibility >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Keith Reedy >>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >