Hi David, I don't know anything about the settings in mail, so I need to be shepherded through this thing step by step. When I came on the okay button, it was just a button, and it was on the far right of the screen, the same thing with the open button, and I know I went through this with an apple representative, and even tried importing the addr.csv file again, and tried to ask the representative if I could delete the first addr.csv file, and he didn't even know what I was talking about, but when I arrowed to the right, it said 1510 cards, so at that point, I had two addr.csv files in there, so he had me select all with command a, and from the edit menu, I deleted all cards, and tried importing the addr.csv again, but he was saying that address book doesn't know what to do with the names, so it tries to put them where it can, and his description made me think that there was no way to successfully import the addr.csv file, so that I could just type a name in the to field, and have mail fill in the rest of the address for me, and when he is using visual terms like the icon you see in the top left corner of your screen, it doesn't help me. On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 05:06:52 -0400, David Poehlman wrote: What's in the box that says ok. also, there are some settings in mail that govern the way vo reacts to the addressbook. I would recommand having a look at the .csv file in your favorite text processor, text edit will do nicely and see just what is in it. When I tried and failed often with csv imports, it was because there was not a proper match. the import failed though which does not seem to be the case with you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Rimpau" <mrimpau@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 9:26 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: how to import a .csv file from pm mail Hi Travis, I know that John Panarese imported a bunch of .csv files, but when I go to export data base in pm mail, the only thing that is supported is .csv, and the file name is addr.csv, but maybe I'm missing something in the import process. First, I open up the address book, then I go to the file menu, and go down to text file elipses, and press vo space bar on that, then because both the side bar and pop up boxes are where I want, which is documents, I vo right arrow to the file browser, and interact with it with vo shift down arrow, and arrow down to addr.csv, and stop interacting with vo shift up arrow, and there's a check box that says ignore first card, which I don't know what that does, so, I vo right arrow to open, and press vo space bar to open the addr.csv file, and then there is an okay button which is on the far right, so I vo right arrow to it, and press vo space bar to select it, and when I vo right arrow over to where it says the number of cards, it says 754 cards, so with all this, am I leaving out a step? Thanks in advance for any assistance, but pm mail doesn't support .lif files, only .csv files for exporting the data base, and I'm coming from an old 400 megs processor with 192 megs of ram on a windows 98 se machine, so I don't have access to thunderbird, and I have found that pm mail is robust, and has always met my needs, just as a background. Hope this helps, but if anybody needs anything more, let the list know. On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:36:24 -0500, Travis Siegel wrote: I've found that the ldif format works best for importing addresses and contacts. Most of the windows apps can save their address books in ldif format. We imported over 1900 email addresses into a friend's machine, and every single one of them came across perfectly. What you'll need to do is the following: 1. open your email program from which you wish to export the addresses. 2. select export address, select ldif format (if it's supported, if not, there's utilities made by 3rd-party folks that can do it for you, but it might be easier to use a program like thunderbird to do the import from the other mail program, then use it to save them in ldif format) 3. email the file to yourself (or put it on a web site, or on a thumbdrive, or get it to the mac somehow). 4. once the file is on the mac, go to applications and open address book. 5. using vo-m (or whatever method you like) select file>import addresses. 6. point to the file you just pulled off your other machine. 7. follow the prompts, and in a very short time, you'll now have all of your contacts email addresses and all on your mac. Now, you can enter a person's name in mail, and it will bring up their email address automatically. Hope this helps. Do let me know if there is anything missing, this was done from memory, so it's possible I missed a step or two, but we have done this multiple times, and each time, we had no trouble with the results. > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > Marty > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > Marty > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >