[macvoiceover] Re: VMware again another issue.
- From: Dean Wilcox <wilcoxdean@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:00:01 +0100
I haven't switched Option and Command like some people suggested as I wasn't
sure what the Command Tab (Alt Tab in Windows) would then do. I am used to it
and find I am able to go to another Windows machine and just use the keyboard
normally and forget all about my changes or the differences when in Fussion
which is handy. I use Sharp Keys to map a few keystrokes on my number pad for
screen reader modifier keys, right mouse click etc.
On 16 Sep 2011, at 11:00, Sean Murphy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes, I have used the pass through and it doesn't resolve the problem. I have
> found a solution Via VMWare keyboard profile. I have made VMWare switch the
> option key with the command key. So VO doesn't over-ride the keys being used
> in the guess os.
>
> What I am using the keys for isn't really relevant. the real issue here is
> how Voice-Over is very aggressive in its way of handling keystrokes.
>
>
> The point I am complaining about and have lodge a bug against Voice_over. Is
> when you are in a Guess OS regardless of the OS inside the VMWare software.
> Once keyboard has been passed to the guess OS. Voice-over should not
> intercept the keystrokes. When you want to use Voice-over again, then you use
> the application short cut key to return control. This is all based upon when
> you are using the VMWare single window or in the full screen mode or in the
> Unity mode.
>
> To re-enforce what I said previously. If you are using the VMWare app and
> need to make a change. Then use alt (option) + control to return control back
> to the Apple OS. Then VO has its control back and you can do what you need.
> But while you are in the guess OS. The Host OS should not intercept the keys
> used within the guess OS. This removes all the messing around you have to do
> with keyboard remapping. Be aware, that VMWare does have a tab to turn off
> global MAC keystrokes such as cmd tab.
>
>
> Sean
> On 15/09/2011, at 12:11 AM, Cheryl Ann Homiak wrote:
>
>> Have you tried the passthrough? If you want to do a key combination that
>> belongs to voiceover but for something else instead, you do ctrl-option-tab
>> before that keypress.
>>
>> Also, you didn't say what you need ctrl-option for in vmware. I know at
>> least in windows xp that you can change shortcut keys that are being used so
>> if you are needing ctrl-option for your screenreader, that can be changed.
>>
>> You should also keep in mind that there are times when you do want voiceover
>> in the vmware window to navigate in some dialogs of vmware itself rather
>> than the particular operating system you are running so this has nothing to
>> do with voiceover being "aggressive". It is in vmware or in your guest
>> operating system that you need to make a change in key assignments.
>>
>> I will warn, however, that at least in my linux vmware installation I
>> sometimes have a problem with my right arrow key (not in conjunction with
>> voiceover but by itself) not working and I sometimes have to turn voiceover
>> on and off to solve this. I suspect there's a solution for this but haven't
>> bothered to work on it so far but just thought I'd warn you in case that
>> happens.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheryl
>>
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You,
>> Lord, my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14, HCSB)
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