Hi there. I guess that can work although I have found that a lot of the salespeople are constantly trying to get you to buy or hanging around etc. I know they have to watch the equipment to make sure nobody steals it, but I wish they wouldn't grab the mouse and try to help me every time I try and do something. Also, sometimes it is just better to have the equipment at your workspace to see how it works with your network and all that other technology. Yes you could maybe bring your own stuff to the store but that can be difficult sometimes. I am not saying that testing things at the store never works, I am just saying it didn't work for me in this case. smile
Sara----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Bartlett" <dennis.bartlett@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:13 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Sara's computer
That's exactly why you go spend time in a store. They'll let you take as much time as you need even making several visits.Dennis Bartlett dennis.bartlett@xxxxxxxxxx On 8-May-08, at 4:46 PM, Sara wrote:Thank you David. That is why I bought a stock model from a store with a 14-day return policy. Many items have 30 days but computers are often less time. As for discouraging it, then people wouldn't be able to be sure if they liked something, particularly access technology. If something isn't compatible then the customer loses. I am going to stop talking about this now as this isn't about my personal purchases but about whether or not a Mac is useful for a blind person.Thanks all. Sara----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 3:16 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Sara's computerThe exception is that if you buy online and have it customize it, you cannotreturn it.----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Sara's computerSara and list. What is interesting is that you have the ability to try this and take it back if you don't want it. Tell me, anyone, have you ever been able to do that with a Windows PC? You mostly have to own the software as soon as you open it. Now, it would appear, that one can buy and try, solong as it is a Mac. Kudos to Apple. Neal -----Original Message----- From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sara Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:49 PM To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: [macvoiceover] Re: [ooo-announce] OpenOffice.org 3 beta is readyfor testingNo no, I had to pay for it. If I bring it back I get my money back. Sorry for the confusion everybody. I'm going to let you all get back to talkingabout open office. I didn't mean to steal the topic. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "vashaun jones" <vashaun.jones@xxxxxxxxx> To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:44 PMSubject: [macvoiceover] Re: [ooo-announce] OpenOffice.org 3 beta is readyfor testingSo, do they just give it to you for two weeks for free or how does that work? On May 8, 2008, at 3:31 PM, Sara wrote:I know you are. Don't worry, somebody will buy it but not me. I need to wait for money. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Bartlett" <dennis.bartlett@xxxxxxxxxx > To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 1:46 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: [ooo-announce] OpenOffice.org 3 beta is ready for testingI'm just trying to help someone get a good deal unless you decide to buy it. Dennis Bartlett dennis.bartlett@xxxxxxxxxx On 8-May-08, at 2:27 PM, Sara wrote:Sorry would rather not say where...gives my location away a little too close. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Bartlett" <dennis.bartlett@xxxxxxxxxx > To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: [ooo-announce] OpenOffice.org 3 beta is ready for testingWhich one? Dennis Bartlett dennis.bartlett@xxxxxxxxxx On 8-May-08, at 1:26 PM, Sara wrote:Futureshop. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Bartlett" <dennis.bartlett@xxxxxxxxxx > To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:47 AM Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: [ooo-announce] OpenOffice.org 3 beta is ready for testingHi Sarah, Where did you get the Mac? Maybe soneone can get a good deal on an open box system when you return it. Dennis Bartlett dennis.bartlett@xxxxxxxxxx On 8-May-08, at 11:35 AM, Sara wrote:Hi all. I don't feel right installing beta software on the Mac that I am testing for two weeks. Does this open office workwith windows or are they just making the Mac version accessible?Thanks. Sara ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Moore" <coasterfreak88@xxxxxxxxx > To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 9:23 AMSubject: [macvoiceover] Re: [ooo-announce] OpenOffice.org 3 betais ready for testingIt took me a while to figure out that the buttons for creating various new things have there labels next to them. It would say, "new spreadsheet" and then I'd have to scroll over to get to the actual button. Just a minor glitch; I forgive them for that one. I guess we're all banding together then? On 5/8/08, vashaun jones <vashaun.jones@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Yup, this is going to be a smack in the face for Microsoft andevenApple if they don't get their stuff together. This is going tobe a wonderful project. On May 8, 2008, at 10:10 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > > On May 8, 2008, at 10:03 AM, John Moore wrote: > >> It hasn't crashed on me yet. >> Oh, it has on me! Try the letter wizard, it's a bit complicated, >> and to get to it you have to close your document to see it. But >> that isn't what crashed. I'm not sure what did, but a couple times >> it just locked up completely and wouldn't respond to anything and >> had to be forced to quit. Once it crashed all by itself without any >> help from me. 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