Hi all. I received this just now from a person with whom I work. He is one of the editors of the WCAG guidelines an is also an Opera user. I asked him to take a look at some pages with Opera, the Mac and Voiceover. Here are his comments. Neal, I had a pretty similar experience with this. Opera doesn't seem to announce headings or lists at all and reads pages in a seemingly random order. The really weird thing is that when you go to a new page, it doesn't necessarily start at the top. Rather, it seems to start about as far down the page as the link you followed on the previous page. Looks like they're making some good progress though. If you're passing advice along, I'd be interested to know what they're doing to determine reading order. Do they have a reason to not follow the source order of the page? Neal Ewers Ravenswood Productions Madison Wisconsin Local phone: 608-277-1995 Toll Free: 888-544-8332 email: neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://ravenswood.org <http://ravenswood.org/> FTP site: ftp://ftp.ravenswood.org <ftp://ftp.ravenswood.org/> Skype name: neal163