[macvoiceover] Re: Opera is really annoying me now.

  • From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:35:57 -0400

/ah, ok. Haven't tried Opera myself yet, so can't comment directly on that. 
Just thought it might be that setting.

-- Rich

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Neal Ewers 
  To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:14 PM
  Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Opera is really annoying me now.


  Rich, Thanks.  I have had it set to DOM for quite some time now after 
realizing how inconsistent group navigation was, at least in my opinion.  I was 
just wondering if there was something in Opera that over-rode this setting, but 
I can't find anything.

  Neal




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  From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rich Caloggero
  Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:38 AM
  To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Opera is really annoying me now.


  Maybe you have group navigation mode enabled? Look in the VoiceOver utility 
(vo+f8 I think - sorry don't have a mac here right now).  There are a bunch of 
tabs (categories) one of which is web. Under that one you should find a 
checkbox for choosing DOM navigation (which is what you want), or group 
navigation.

  Hope this helps.
  -- Rich

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Neal Ewers 
    To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:39 AM
    Subject: [macvoiceover] Opera is really annoying me now.


    OK, Keith, when I started Opera this morning, It supposedly opened my start 
up page.  It took me to a page that was just as you described.  There seemed to 
be no way to interact with html content.

    I also went to a number of pages I no very well.  The reading order of 
these pages is very strange and unlike any presented in any other browser I 
have used.  Also, Opera is not finding headings on a number of these pages.  

    When I go to 

    http://www.trace.wisc.edu

    where I used to work, I look for page headings and Opera doesn't find them 
even though they are there.  When I read the page, it reads the header 
information, the search links, and the footer information.  Then, and only 
then, does it read the main part of the page.  It's almost as if it is reading 
in some kind of groups, but I can find nothing to turn this on or off.  So, if 
you're using Opera, perhaps you might go to pages you know well and see if it 
reads them correctly.

    Neal Ewers
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