all, under snow leopard and before the most recent update of lion, I was able to kill the preview payne but now, I cannot. Here are my steps to see what I am doing rong: 1> open mail 2> turn off cursor tracking 3> find and use vo to shrink both horrizontal splitters while interacting with them although I think it is the one on the right. 4> stop interacting with the splitter 5> bring the mouse cursor to the vo cursor with vo-command-f5 (I'm using the built-in trackpad on my macbook pro) 6> click the trackpad. I also turn cursor tracking back on just before executing the command (vo-shift-f5. Help! Thanks! -- Jonnie Appleseed with his Hands-On Technolog(eye)s reducing technology's disabilities one byte at a time ************ You are subscribed to the mac4theblind mailing list. The url for this list, where one can unsubscribe or make any changes to their list subscription is: //www.freelists.org/list/mac4theblind The list archive is located at //www.freelists.org/archive/mac4theblind/ All emails intended for the list owner can be sent to: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx