<<When I am really sick, I describe symptoms to receptionist and they call in a prescription to the local pharmacy. (this is only for non-chronic conditions.) >> What an indulgence!! No Doctor here will do a script w/out an office visit. You can be laid flat by strep throat (which I have been this week), and manage to get yourself to the Dr's office; often the wait for an appointment is ridiculous; if you don't show up with insurance or cash in hand they won't see you. It's roughly $80 for an office visit. And then you drag your fevered body to the pharmacy to cough up the $150 for the antibiotic. My Dr. (now all Dr's) will not even call in a birth control script without an office visit to keep their billing up. I do understand it at one end -- my husband does DME stuff -- respiratory therapy -- oxygen concentrators and tanks, takes care of people with lung diseases, etc. In the last 10 years there has been no increase in what Medicare will pay. Obviously the durable medical companies have keept raising their prices for their goods. The whole situation is untenable. Julie Krueger ========Original Message======== Subj: [lit-ideas] Re: health care in the US Date: 1/30/06 10:17:36 PM Central Standard Time From: _vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:vcaley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent on: This sure is right. All my physicians are specialists. My internist is the primary care person. I go into the office every three months, talk about how I feel and doc listens to my heart and lungs, renews medications. When I am really sick, I describe symptoms to receptionist and they call in a prescription to the local pharmacy. (this is only for non-chronic conditions.) If it sounds serious, one is directed to the emergency room, which is over loaded with people who have no insurance and it's a thousand dollars to step through the door. And we have the best coverage. The whole system is nuts. Why go to a doctor if one does not feel sick and the chronic condition is controlled but not eliminated? To keep to a good schedule for a doctor I guess. Veronica Caley Milford, MI ----- Original Message ----- From: (mailto:JimKandJulieB@xxxxxxx) To: _lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent: 1/30/2006 11:04:03 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] health care in the US _http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060130/hl_nm/usa_dc;_ylt=AkvEEDGHMalfYB1Ah9UvmUY DW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl_ (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060130/hl_nm/usa_dc;_ylt=AkvEEDGHMalfYB1Ah9UvmUYDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYw MlJVRPUCUl) _Back to Story_ (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060130/hl_nm/usa_dc;_ylt=AvdO4vYYq9TnWn8G4fdrsEcR.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTBidHQxYjh2BHNlYwN5bnN0b3J5) - _Help_ (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=ArCbxyglJopemDv8PP_OTmIR.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTBidHQxYjh2BHNl YwN5bnN0b3J5/SIG=10rbjkhqd/**http://help.yahoo.com/) (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AuaU1S_3N04SDTFp4GyEcpgR.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTBidHQxYjh2BHNlYwN5bnN0b3J5/SIG=10rm1k7vf/**http://news.yahoo.com/) Primary care about to collapse, physicians warn By Maggie Fox, Health and Science CorrespondentMon Jan 30, 1:44 PM ET Primary care -- the basic medical care that people get when they visit their doctors for routine physicals and minor problems -- could fall apart in the United States without immediate reforms, the American College of Physicians said on Monday. "Primary care is on the verge of collapse," said the organization, a professional group which certifies internists, in a statement. "Very few young physicians are going into primary care and those already in practice are under such stress that they are looking for an exit strategy." Dropping incomes coupled with difficulties in juggling patients, soaring bills and policies from insurers that encourage rushed office visits all mean that more primary care doctors are retiring than are graduating from medical school, the ACP said in its report. The group has proposed a solution -- calling on federal policymakers to approve new ways of paying doctors that would put primary care doctors in charge of organizing a patient's care and giving patients more responsibility for monitoring their own health and scheduling regular visits. U.S. doctors have long complained that reimbursement policies of both Medicare and private insurers reward a "just-in-time" approach, instead of preventive care that would save money and keep patients healthier. "Medicare will pay tens of thousands of dollars ... for a limb amputation on a diabetic patient, but virtually nothing to the primary care physician for keeping the patient's diabetes under control," said Bob Doherty, senior vice president for the ACP. The ACP plan called for innovations such as using e-mail to consult on minor and routine matters, freeing up expensive office visit time for when it is needed. Doctors would be compensated for an e-mail consultation. The proposals include incentives for doctors to work more efficiently and to provide better care, ACP President Dr. C. Anderson Hedberg told a news conference. "ACP proposals would provide patients with access to care that is coordinated by their own personal physician," Hedberg said. YOUNG DOCTORS AVOIDING PRIMARY CARE The ACP cited an American Medical Association survey that found 35 percent of all physicians nationwide are over the age of 55 and will soon retire. In 2003, only 27 percent of third year internal medicine residents actually planned to practice internal medicine, the group said, with others planning to go into more lucrative specialty jobs. "Primary care physicians -- the bedrock of medical care for today and the future -- are at the bottom of the list of all medical specialties in median income compensation," the ACP said. The group, which represents 119,000 doctors and medical students in general internal medicine and subspecialties, joins others that warn the U.S. health care system is untenable. 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