[lit-ideas] Re: ...but "I" /meant/ well
- From: Mike Geary <jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:39:51 -0500
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 9/4/13 12:41 PM, Mike Geary wrote:
>
> Memphising along without any motives at all.
>>
>
> Torgeir wrote
>
>
> " Nietzsche denies that we can ever know the intentions of any other
>> human being. In fact, Nietzsche emphasizes the relative unimportance
>> of conscious thinking, "consciousness is a surface," in favor of
>> subconscious thinking and instincts. Hence, Nietzsche argues, not
>> only can we not know the motives of other individuals, we cannot
>> even know our own motives. This is a frequent theme in Nietzsche's
>> writings, for example, "the most common lie is the lie one tells to
>> oneself; lying to others is relatively the exception." "
>>
>
> and Mike asked
>
>
> > Yeah, but why did Nietzsche say that? Hey? That's the question.
>
> That seems the right question. Was Nietzsche reporting on an experiment
> he'd conducted in which he found that we can't know the intentions of
> others or even our own intentions? Unlikely. This would need some way to
> view what I thought I intended and what I _really_ intended side-by-side,
> to see that they differ; but the futility of this, given Nietzsche's claim
> is obvious; I cannot make such a comparison, for I have no way of knowing
> what my 'real' intention is.
>
> Motives are not intentions, although they may be cousins. I intend to read
> Pope's Essay on Criticism, but my motive for doing so is to get a higher
> mark in my 18th Century literature course.
>
> Finally, intentionality, as it's been discussed here, is a different
> notion than the notion of intentionality used in discussing or examining
> intentional behaviour.
>
> Sorry to have gone on so long.
>
> Robert Paul
>
>
>
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