[lit-ideas] Re: ...but "I" /meant/ well
- From: Mike Geary <jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:42:03 -0500
RP: "Sorry to have gone on so long."
No problem. I know you didn't intend to.
J. Michael Geary
Intentional Genius of Memphis
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Mike Geary <jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
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> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Robert Paul <rpaul@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> On 9/4/13 12:41 PM, Mike Geary wrote:
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>> Memphising along without any motives at all.
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>> Torgeir wrote
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>> " Nietzsche denies that we can ever know the intentions of any other
>>> human being. In fact, Nietzsche emphasizes the relative unimportance
>>> of conscious thinking, "consciousness is a surface," in favor of
>>> subconscious thinking and instincts. Hence, Nietzsche argues, not
>>> only can we not know the motives of other individuals, we cannot
>>> even know our own motives. This is a frequent theme in Nietzsche's
>>> writings, for example, "the most common lie is the lie one tells to
>>> oneself; lying to others is relatively the exception." "
>>>
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>> and Mike asked
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>> > Yeah, but why did Nietzsche say that? Hey? That's the question.
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>> That seems the right question. Was Nietzsche reporting on an experiment
>> he'd conducted in which he found that we can't know the intentions of
>> others or even our own intentions? Unlikely. This would need some way to
>> view what I thought I intended and what I _really_ intended side-by-side,
>> to see that they differ; but the futility of this, given Nietzsche's claim
>> is obvious; I cannot make such a comparison, for I have no way of knowing
>> what my 'real' intention is.
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>> Motives are not intentions, although they may be cousins. I intend to
>> read Pope's Essay on Criticism, but my motive for doing so is to get a
>> higher mark in my 18th Century literature course.
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>> Finally, intentionality, as it's been discussed here, is a different
>> notion than the notion of intentionality used in discussing or examining
>> intentional behaviour.
>>
>> Sorry to have gone on so long.
>>
>> Robert Paul
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