I wonder if an element of this (not the whole story, but a contributing impact) is: Capitalism seems to work for a while under certain circumstances. And though there was certainly a good deal of import & export, trade, tariff issues, etc. in the past, only recently have we gone from having a national economy to having an economy which is, thanks to globalization and a true global economy, more a part of that global economy than simply a national economy. Our economy is far less self-contained than what it has been in previous crises. Capitalism may not work nearly as well as part of a global economy that also includes other various and far different economic models. The complexity of the global economic issues seem to me to make the uphill battle for a stable American capitalism far steeper. Julie Krueger On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Simon Ward <sedward@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > My take - from way over the wrong side of the fence - is that, post cold > war, a humungous assumption was given play. Namely that earning a profit by > whatever means is the natural order of things. That if you're earning a > profit, the market is behind you and all is good. In technical speak, > neo-liberal economic thoughts was 'proven', and all alternatives were out of > play. > > This approach applied just as much to speculators as it did to real world > economic agents - the guys that produce stuff or create value. And so > regulations were removed, speculation was once more a good thing and all > would be rosy for ever and ever. > > Unfortunately, this thinking was proven wrong. Speculation is not > necessarily a good thing. Regulated dealing in the value of a company's > prospects (share-dealing) works, but the creation of unregulated financial > products that earn money from bad decision making (short selling, default > swaps etc), only serves to hasten market exit. If all production was > achieved through the application of capital (100 per cent robotics) this > wouldn't be 'as' bad, but when there is a workforce earning wages to take > back to so many families, the consequences are dire. And yet somewhere, more > than likely high up in a sky scraper, some people have made a profit from > all the misery. > > From where I sit (a long way from the fence) speculators do no more than > accumulate unproductive capital. While some finds it's way to being > productive capital (as equity), much does not. When there's too much > unproductive capital, stuff starts to happen and it's not nice. > > In short, David has it right. > > Simon > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html >