[lit-ideas] Re: Who killed Nick Berg?

  • From: P.H.Lundbech <3212234@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 14:29:36 +0200

On Mon, 31 May 2004 07:50:38 EDT, JulieReneB@xxxxxxx wrote:

> I saw an article citing forensic folks a few days ago -- their =
conjecture=20
>was that Nick was already dead (and bled out) before the filming and =
that the=20
>video was staged for shock value.  Desecration of a human body is a huge=
 no-no=20
>in the culture.   Do you have reason to think other than that?=20
>Julie Krueger

Any reason to believe anyone who quotes anything from
http:\\www.aztlan.net ?

Take a look at the headlines at aztlan:

""Converted to Judaism": Lesbian professor stages phoney hate
crime at Claremont Colleges"

"Rape of Iraqi girls by US mercenaries and soldiers was rampant
in Baghdad"

"Iraqi resistance fighters call for Americans to be castrated on
the banks of the Euphrates River"

"Jewish Terrorists Threaten La Voz de Aztlan Again"

"Beware of Zionist controlled PayPal"=09

Or take a look at this:

http://www.aztlan.net/children_of_the_great_satan.htm

--=20
P. H. Lundbech
Odense, DK

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>Subj:[lit-ideas] Who killed Nick Berg?
>Date:5/30/2004 2:49:12 PM Central Daylight Time
>From:andreas@xxxxxxxxxxx
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>There is widespread discussion on blogs about this. The video is very =
likely
>fake. But who faked it?
>
>yrs,
>andreas
>www.andreas.com
>
>Who killed Nick Berg?
>May 29, 2004    The Sydney Morning Herald.
>http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/28/1085641717320.html
>
>Conspiracy theories about how the kidnapped American died in Iraq are =
flying
>around the world. Richard Neville explores the explanations.
>
>Iraq in flames, Washington an object of disgust. What to do? At this =
pivotal
>moment, CNN and Fox News are tipped off to a clip of an American citizen
>being beheaded. The victim is a 26-year-old idealist from Pennsylvania, =
Nick
>Berg. Despite the perpetrators being masked, the vile deed is deemed the
>work of al-Qaeda.
>
>The clip was first "discovered" on an Islamic website in Malaysia. Its
>Arabic title reads "Abu Musab al-Zarqawi shown slaughtering an =
American".
>al-Zarqawi is a 38-year-old Jordanian militant who fled to Iraq in 2001
>after reportedly losing a leg in a US missile strike. al-Zarqawi's face =
is
>widely known and he credits himself with the deed, so why a mask?
>
>The timing of the video was brilliant for the West. Media pundits judged=
 the
>crime a deeper evil than the systemic torture of innocent Iraqis. But =
some
>people sensed a rat. But if it was not al-Qaeda, who? Surely not Uncle =
Sam.
>That's too dark, even for the CIA.
>
>While this video shows a human body having its head chopped off, it does=
 not
>necessarily portray an act of murder. Berg's headless body was found =
dumped
>on a Baghdad roadside on Saturday, May 8.
>Three days later, the "live beheading" clip was uploaded from London to =
the
>Malaysian website http://www.al-ansar.biz. The statement in the video is
>signed with al-Zarqawi's name, dated May 11. After Fox News and CNN had
>downloaded the video, it disappeared from the site.
>
>As no autopsy is available, little is known about the state of the body.=
 No
>time of death, no forensic analysis. On April 6, a month before the
>discovery of the corpse, Berg had been released from custody. But whose
>custody?
>
>Dan Senor, adviser to the US Presidential Envoy in Iraq, has said Berg =
was
>never held by the Americans. Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, the =
Coalition's
>deputy head of operations, claimed he was in the custody of Iraqi police
>from March 24 to April 6. However, the Iraqi police chief, Major-General
>Mohammed Khair al-Barhawi, told Associated Press "the Iraqi police never
>arrested the slain American".
>
>Berg's family are certain his jailers were the US military. His father,
>Michael, had been told so by the FBI. He has produced an email from a US
>consular official in Baghdad, Beth Payne, confirming that his son was in=
 the
>hands of the US. (Later, another official said this was an error.) On =
April
>5 in the Philadelphia office of the US Supreme Court, the Berg family =
had
>launched an action against the US military for false imprisonment. The
>following day, Berg was released.
>
>The issue of custody is significant; in his final moments on screen Berg=
 is
>wearing an orange jumpsuit of the kind familiar from Guantanamo Bay. The
>official reasons for Berg's arrest were "lack of documentation" and
>"suspicious activities". He carried sensitive electronic equipment for =
which
>he lacked documents. In custody, he was visited three times by the FBI. =
Such
>interviews are bound to have been recorded but no transcripts have been
>produced.
>
>After his release, Berg travelled to Baghdad and the $30-a-night =
Al-Fanar
>Hotel. A fellow hotel guest told Newsday that Berg recounted how Iraqi
>police had quickly handed him to US authorities in Mosul and that he had
>been held the entire time in a jail where his guards were US soldiers.
>
>Berg was in Baghdad to win contracts for his family firm, Prometheus =
Methods
>Tower Service, a provider of communications facilities. He often "worked=
 at
>night on a tower in the neighbourhood of Abu Ghraib", according to The =
New
>York Times.
>
>The family last heard from him on April 9, when he said he was planning =
to
>leave Iraq via Kuwait as soon as it was safe. Berg was last seen walking
>with his bags the following day, apparently hoping to find his way =
through
>the turmoil engulfing the city and make it to the border.
>
>On March 7, 2004, two weeks before his arrest in Mosul, an "enemies =
list"
>had been posted on a conservative website, FreeRepublic.com. The list =
was
>compiled from signatories to an anti-war petition, and its implied =
purpose
>was to encourage readers to harass those it named.
>
>Berg's father was on that list, as was the family firm, Prometheus. This
>information may well have triggered the arrest of Berg in Iraq.
>
>Berg's politics are not clear. His father, Michael, has described his =
son as
>a "staunch supporter" of US President George Bush. Friends said Nick
>believed he could help rebuild Iraq "one radio tower at a time". =
According
>to The New York Times, he was attracted to the Hebrew concept of tikkun
>olam - healing the world through social action.
>
>The first few seconds of the video shows Berg sitting on a white plastic
>chair in an orange jumpsuit. He speaks directly to the camera in a =
relaxed
>way: "My name is Nick Berg ... I have a brother and sister, David and =
Sara.
>I live in Philadelphia." His white chair is identical to those in the
>photographs of the Abu Ghraib prison tortures, but such chairs are =
probably
>common in Iraq. It is highly likely that this segment is edited from the
>interrogation of Berg during his 13 days of custody.
>
>In the next scene, Berg is sitting on the floor with five masked figures
>standing behind him. We do not see the figures enter. Berg looks =
lifeless,
>though his body appears to make slight movements. A man reads a lengthy
>Arabic statement in a passionless monotone. He is identified as "Abu =
Musab
>al-Zarqawi", a Jordanian associate of Osama bin Laden who is tied to =
dozens
>of terrorist acts.
>
>Yet a leaflet recently circulated in Falluja, by no means a reliable =
source,
>claims that al-Zarqawi was killed in the Sulaimaniya mountains of =
northern
>Iraq during a US bombing. A US military report last month has claimed
>al-Zarqawi was killed in the bombing of Falluja.
>
>Also, the US Secretary of State, Colin Powell, has said that al-Zarqawi =
was
>fitted with a prosthetic leg in a Baghdad hospital, yet the tape shows =
no
>evidence of a limp. CNN staff familiar with al-Zarqawi's voice have been
>quoted as saying the voice does not sound like his.
>
>Among the many curiosities raised on the web about the fanatical five =
are:
>
>=B7 They are well-fed, fidgety, and reveal glimpses of white skin.
>
>=B7 Their Arabic is heavily accented (Russian, Jordanian, Egyptian).
>
>=B7 An aside in Russian had been translated as "do it quickly".
>
>=B7 One character wears wears bulky white tennis shoes.
>
>=B7 The man on the far left stands in the familiar "at ease" military =
posture.
>
>=B7 The men's scarves are worn and tied by people who "haven't a clue", =
says
>conspiracy theorist Hector Carreon, like actors in Hollywood movies.
>
>=B7 There is even a voice at the end that seems to ask in English, "How =
will
>it be done?" [http://www.aztlan.net/nick_berg_how_done.htm]
>
>None of this proves a grand conspiracy, but it does raise questions. In =
the
>final segment of the tape, Berg is thrown to the ground, but doesn't =
move.
>During the decapitation, starting at the front of the throat, there is
>little sign of blood. The scream is wildly out of sync, sounds female, =
and
>is obviously dubbed.
>
>Dr John Simpson, executive director for surgical affairs at the Royal
>Australasian College of Surgeons, told Ritt Goldstein of the Asia Times,=
 "I
>would have thought that all the people in the vicinity would have been
>covered in blood, in a matter of seconds ... if it [the video] was =
genuine".
>
>Simpson agrees with other experts who find it highly probable that Berg =
had
>died before his decapitation.
>
>But there is still the problem of Berg's slight body movements while =
sitting
>on the floor, before the beheading. According to a blogger (internet
>diarist), Nick Possum, "this footage was subsequently modified frame by
>frame to make Berg's body move very occasionally". Apparently, this can =
be
>achieved with "commonly available software".
>[http://www.brushtail.com.au/nick_berg_hypothesis.html]
>
>Possum believes "the available evidence surrounding the case suggests =
that
>it was a 'black operation' by US psychological warfare specialists ... =
to
>provide the media with a moral relativity argument to counter the =
adverse
>publicity over torture at Abu Ghraib". The use of FBI footage in the =
opening
>sequence, if confirmed, suggests the involvement of high-level US =
Government
>operatives.
>
>I do not know who killed Nick Berg, or how he died. But there's =
something
>fishy about this video.
>
>In the end, the question is: who killed Nick Berg, and why?
>
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