JL: >>I take 'save' as a very serious verb. "Jesus saved my life", Geary said. >>Which is paradoxical in that Jesus died before Geary was born, but that's >>Catholicism for you.<< That is NOT Catholicism, that is Protestantism. Salvation through faith in Christ alone is Luther's perversity and that of all the heretics who followed his damnable lead. But unus, sanctus, Catholicus et apostolicus ecclesius teaches, and rightly so, that both faith and GOOD WORKS are need for salvation. It's a steep and thorny road to heaven and a hard rain's a-gonna fall before you get there. Please don't slur Catholicism with your heresy. Mike Geary "once a Catholic, always a Catholic" Memphis