--- On Sat, 30/7/11, John McCreery <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >Lovely, and wise. John> Well, lovely perhaps [a matter of aesthetics?]. But wise [a philosophical issue?]? Of course, maybe I have misunderstood: but Rilke's point might be more prosaically put as 'we should be patient and let nature takes its course'. Is this wise? Sometimes perhaps. But sometimes we should perhaps be impatient with what would otherwise be the natural course of things and we should interfere so as to change what would otherwise be the natural course of things: that may be wise too. In the case of 'a natural course of things' about which we can do nothing, we should perhaps be patient - as impatience achieves nothing; and we should avoid the exercise in futility of trying to change what cannot be changed. But this comes to the wisdom of knowing the difference between what can be changed and what cannot, and of knowing what is worth changing; and on this Rilke's poem is (perhaps not entirely wisely) one-sided, tendentiously focusing on what seemingly cannot be changed. Commonsense aphorisms reflect the fact that almost every pearl of wisdom of this sort has its equal and opposite 'truth': 'many hands makes light work'/'too many cooks spoil the broth';'a stitch in time saves nine'/'more haste, less speed' etc. This does not mean commonsense is riven with contradictions so much that life presents us with problems or dilemmas which require judgment to solve or resolve; and the correctness of that judgment will depend on whether it is appropriate to the specifics of a given situation. So the second unwise aspect of Rilke's poem, if relied on too seriously as considered wisdom, is that it is over-generalised in its approach. Third, there is a typically romantic or utopian aspect to how the poem views nature and its course - one that is doubtful intellectually, whatever its emotional appeal. Consider the opening statement:- " One must allow things Their own silent Undisturbed development, That comes from deep within And can by nothing be forced Or expedited" This is either some metaphysical claim that can only be maintained as true in some untestable sense or, if given a testable sense, it clearly paints a false picture of nature. Taking even a "tree", its development can be "expedited" or "curtailed" by environmental changes [this is because, "deep within", a tree has evolved to respond to certain environmental changes e.g. drought or flood; this might be also or better put - the "trees" that have survived are those with the evolved capacity to withstand environmental challenges that otherwise would have eliminated them]. We might allow that the "tree" grows in a "silent" way (at least to human ears), but it is simply a false picture of nature to consider that its natural course consists in some "(u)ndisturbed development". In fact, though very generalised, it would be much more accurate to say that all developments of organic life are subject to disturbance, to environmental or other 'outside' impacts. We can of course beg the question here by defining some such environmental or outside effects as 'natural' [as rain may be thought 'natural' to the tree], but this cannot be done without rendering the notion of 'nature' so wide as to be vacuous [trees can survive in rainless environments provided they find another way to access water, and this is hardly 'unnatural']: and even then this would only hide the underlying point - that it is in an organism's capacity to respond and adapt to outside or environmental 'variations', that we get the measure of its adaptive capacity - and, given that environments are not entirely static, an organism that was only adapted to one completely unvarying habitat would be 'unwise'. There are other questionable aspects to the poem as 'philosophy', including its veiled suggestion that wisdom simply comes in due course [rather than never, or only rarely and after much effort], but I feel there is no need to ruin things any further. Nevertheless, insofar as the poem addresses a problem (rather than merely express a somewhat one-sided, over-generalised and questionable 'poetic' feeling or intuition), we do not have to solve the problem like Maria. Donal London ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html