The inspectors verified over and over that Saddam had no WMD. After WWII even Churchill agreed that it's better to talk than to fight. If you saw two kids in a school yard getting ready to fight, wouldn't you encourage them to talk? I saw Becoming Jane not too long ago. It was a real study in how violence is the unquestionednorm. Of course this Jane was fictional, but it's hard to argue that the depiction wasn't based in reality. Jane was quick with physical expression of anger; she hit two men in the movie who admirably didn't hit her back (no doubt a 21st century Americanism, at least in movies; check out Bollywood, the not for export stuff), and (back to Jane) there were two instances of organized street fighting in a ring. In Wuthering Heights, the book, references to hitting children are tossed off as right as rain, utterly normal. Violence was what society was/is made of. Unfortunately, nothing changes until it changes. And it changes when people get punching bags and use them instead of each other. Don't hold your breath waiting though. Andy --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Eric Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Eric Yost <mr.eric.yost@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The Mr. Nice Guy Strategy To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 7:54 PM Bill D.: So it was an economic problem that Reagan helped create for the Soviet Union (as well as the US, but that's a whole 'nother story), and the problem's solution was talking. Now under the latest SALT agreement, the US is limited to non-MIV warheads. Each Minuteman III carries a 1.2 to 3 megaton warhead. We tested one of our missiles recently to try to quiet down North Korea; it went 4700 miles and landed within a few meters of the target. However, I must disagree that the solution is talking. The solution is *verification* of the result of talks. Consider all the useless talks (such as Ambassador Bill Richardson's with Pakistan during the Clinton administration) that were just pure lies followed by surprise nuclear tests. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html