WWI spawned WWII so I'm wrong only in the details. Andy <min.erva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: ?The German state never existed as anything other than a militaristic enterprise, which is why its skill led to repeated defeat and, ultimately, to its own devastation in 1945. That this final devastation originated out of victory is only one of the many ironies of German history.? Change the names and date and boy does this sound like the U.S. I skimmed the rest of it. The U.S. entered WWI very late. Everyone was exhausted by then, inevitably they would have stopped the nonsense, and the U.S. injected, as you say, fresh troops. To prove what exactly? You're so funny, Lawrence. You'll defend war no matter how counterproductive and self destructive it is. All to live in an empire. Did you hear Bernanke testifying before Congress that the economy is in very bad shape? One more war and it's curtains. Maybe even before, but definitely if there's a war. Hey, nothing lasts forever. Except, ironically, war. The military industrial complex, a militaristic enterprise... We've been lucky, we've never had bombs dropped on our heads, entire cities turned to rubble. An experience not to be missed, eh, Lawrence? --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.