So if Tristan loved Isolde because he drank a potion, was his not love? What difference does it make if their gentleness is an adaptive advantage or if it's something that came out of a meeting around a campfire? Who knows where or how things evolved or originated? They're there, that's all. The bears are gentle, and in a human-dominated world, their gentleness fails them when faced with predators with the ferocity of humans. Animals all over the world are major losers in a human-dominated world, to wit 50,000 species a year. I'm not sure what your point is. > [Original Message] > From: Eric Yost <eyost1132@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 8/22/2006 12:25:12 PM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: The Bear > > Andy: The 12-gauge was what I meant that bears are always on > the losing side of humans. . . . they're just too gentle to > be afraid . . If the bear misread you, he'd be dead for no > reason than because he happened to make your acquaintance. > > One of the articles on black bears you posted suggests that > black bears evolved in a time of fiercer predators, that > their nonconfrontational attitude (combined with their > singular ability to climb trees) enabled them to avoid > becoming food for other creatures. According to that > article, it is their instinctive fear of confrontation, > their survival strategy of run-and-climb,_that makes them > (what you perceive as) gentle. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html