>If Donal wants to suggest > "Blue here" as an elementary proposition, he will encounter no problems > with > Wittgenstein. Robert Paul suggested 'blue here' as an EP: I did not. Nor do I know where W suggested it. The problem is whether a. blue is simple or complex - if blue can be analysed in terms of statements of velocity it might seem it is *not* an EP or elementary name. b. is 'here' an EP - or can the space-time point it points to be further broken down in terms of more specific 'heres' [here in my room can be broken down in the many points of 'here' in my room]. And is there a specifiable end to this breaking down where we arrive an some sayable EPs? My hunch is no. Donal ____________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html