Eric Yost wrote: "In Christian writings, you have Simon Magus in Acts 8 and the letter of First Timmy. But before Christianity you have a bunch of dualisms like Platonism and Zoroastrianism that show gnostic tendencies. Most of the known mystery cults of the Hellenistic period had gnostic components as well as some writings from the Qumran sects." Certainly the sources of Gnosticism pre-date Christianity but I am not aware of any contemporary scholarship that would date Gnosticism this early. The scholarly consensus seems to place the flourishing of Gnosticism within the third century. I think there is good evidence to suggest that Gnosticism was already present at the end of the first century, but doesn't really take form till Valentinius. However one wants to date Gnosticism, it is worth noting that there are a great many differing views on what constitutes Gnosticism. The most obvious problem with fixing the nature and dates of Gnosticism is that the designation is a modern one and so the whole debate reeks of anachronism. Sincerely, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html