The Poker: A Pre-Sequel In a message dated 4/29/2004 11:56:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, Robert.Paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: >...it is festooned with yards of Hildegard Wittgenstein, daughter of Ludwig and...< Sounds like an anticipation of 'Pulp Fiction.' ---- Right. And, also, a pre-sequel to "Wittgenstein's Poker". I noticed the OED yas not yet recognized 'pre-sequel' (mailto:oed3@xxxxxxxxx). http://www.anglorama.com.pl/html/dla_nauczycieli1_op.php has the rather simplistic exchange: Q: Can you tell the difference between a sequel and pre-sequel? A: Sequel - continues the story. Pre-sequel - tells you what happened before. I suspect the logic of 'pre-sequeling' is more along the lines of H. P. Grice in 'Actions and Events' (Pacific Philosophical Quarterly, 1986), as per below. Cheers, JL ---- OBJECT-LANGUAGE: 1. For any event e-1 taking place in t-1, a sequel of e-1 involves an event e-2, taking place in t2, such that t2>t1 (Correctly: [retronym] "post-sequel"). 2. For an event 2-1 taking place in t-1, a PRE-sequel of e-1 involves an event e-2 taking place in t2, such that t1>t2. META-LANGUAGE (qualification). 1. For any event e-1, taking place in t-1, if the metalinguistic description of e-2 takes place AFTER the metalinguistic description of e-2, it is a sequel (or post-sequel). 2. For any event e-1, taking place in t-1, if the metalinguistic description of e-2 taking place in t2 such that t2<t1, takes place AFTER the metalinguistic description of e-2, it is a PRE-sequel. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html