Things in their constructs tend to more sociable and usually they like beer, while things-in-themselves generally prefer strong spirits. O.K. On Saturday, March 1, 2014 11:46 PM, Walter C. Okshevsky <wokshevs@xxxxxx> wrote: Kantian Constructivism, as per O'Neill, Korsgaard, Rawls, Habermas, Okshevsky et al notwithstanding, shirley. (Don't ask me who Al and Shirley are. Isn't there a movie like that ...?) "There's a social side to things in their constructs." Excellent display of the kind of precision in thought and writing I require of my grad and undergrad students. I should retire from university life ... Cheers, Walter Quoting Torgeir Fjeld <torgeir_fjeld@xxxxxxxx>: > Social constructivism doesn't hold much of an esteem currently (doesn't hold > much of a currency, estametly), nevertheless and nonwithstanding, Plato > hisselfes held there's a social side to things in their constructs. As per > below, and see also further clever authorial comments as per piss. > > > From http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/cratylus.html > > Socrates: Well, now, let me take an instance;- suppose that I call a man a > horse or a horse a man, you mean to say that a man will be rightly called a > horse by me individually, and rightly called a man by the rest of the world; > and a horse again would be rightly called a man by me and a horse by the > world:- that is your meaning? > > Hermogenes: He would, according to my view. > > PS: > Let's say there's three possibl positions as to regarding the relation > language to man and their contexts- > > a) man makes up words, so that when gregory, say, arrives, i decide to hail > him horsely "hey, horse!" > > b) words make up man, so that when gregory, say, arrives, words have decided > that i hail him manly "hey, man!" > > c) man makes up words howee\ver not in conditions of his own makes, so that > when gregory cums -- fnally -- i hail him. period. > > three and only three options. > > yrs. > > phatic > (inquisitor) ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html