[lit-ideas] Re: POETRY SCHOETRY

  • From: Julie C <juliereneb@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:30:02 -0500

Where do you put (how do you categorize) these?  They are the poets who, for
many years now, have spoken to me --

cummings
Sexton
Sharon Olds
Neruda
T. S. Eliot
Mary Oliver
Octavio Paz
Celan
Rumi (odd man out, I guess)

Julie Krueger




On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Mike Geary
<jejunejesuit.geary2@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> I'd rather read a good short story than a good novel.  I'd rather read a
> good poem than a good short story.  It could be that I'm just lazy (I am),
> or it could be that the more concentrated the experience, the more intense
> the experience.
>
> Poetry is not everyone's cup of tea.  Those I know who don't like poetry
> usually say things like: "why doesn't he just say what he means?"  Good
> question if poetry were about meaning.  Or maybe I should say "totally about
> meaning."  When I think back to my high school exposure to poetry I
> remember Frost (Hired Hand, Mending Wall, Stopping By The Woods On a Snowy
> Evening), some easy sonnets by Elizabeth Barret Browning and Shakespeare.
> Mostly good old home grown thoughts and emotions within a rhyme scheme.
> College brought the study of poetry as canonized period pieces.  But the
> period that interested at the time was my own -- it was the Beats -- the
> wild men who had grabbed the labels of the culture and  were shaking it:
> "Listen to me, listen to me."  But most of their poetry was just
> evangelizing an unarticulated alternative culture.  Still, it was fun.  Then
> I discovered the "sensitive poets" -- Merwin, Bly, Hall, Hect,
> Bishop, Galway Kinnell, Levertov, Plath, Wright --  to name a few that come
> immediately to mind.  And so many unclassifiables:  Cummings,
> Roethke, Snyder, Stafford, Koch.  All are rich veins of versification.  But
> I never took to Ashbery.  Never understood how he was using words, but I
> persisted.  At first he seemed as disconnected as Ritchie's Gardening
> Guy.  Where's the poetic language in  his poetry?  He seems to write prose
> sentences.    Where the emotional nexus?  He seems have no center.  Then it
> began to dawn on me that he uses everyday language as the most poetic of
> poetic language, and that the nexus is the whole of the poem.  Most of the
> poems reflect he helter-skelter of our experience of the world and our
> wanting, needing, crying out for a nexus to our lives.  All of us as lost as
> he is and read that way I find him very powerful.  I'm reading Jorie Graham
> now.  Love her.  A genius at metaphorization -- is that a word?  It is now.
>
> Mike Geary
> not giving a damn what you think you know, I know better
> in Memphis
>

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