In my earlier post, the sentence: "I think his reasoning does a comparable wrong to that which he would redress by not endorsing Andreas's imposition of limits." should have read: "I think his reasoning does a wrong comparable to that which he would redress by not endorsing Andreas's imposition of limits." i.e. I read Mike's non-endorsement of Andreas's limit setting as attempting to forestall a prospective wrong, but I think acting on his reasoning would perpetrate a comparable wrong. The words are too strong by far for the situation, but I hope that clarifies the point I was trying to make in that sentence. Regards to all. Eric Dean Washington DC