-- On Wed, 25/2/09, Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx <Jlsperanza@aol. > > 2. It's not 'on terms' it's _in_ terms. > Cfr. 'contradictio _in_ terminis_, > never _supra_. No, it's _on_, as in "on its own terms" - not as in "in its own terms". Trust me. (The grammar here reflects, perhaps, that we are accepting those terms from the outside, rather than inside, as it were; even if our acceptance means we now evaluate from some 'internal' POV, such acceptance is not determined by this 'internal' POV [if it were, the question in the subject-title might be answered only by some definition]). If we were translating a criticism from some 'external' POV into the terms of the position criticised, then we might use "in its own terms" (and variants). [E.g. 'The marxist criticism of this kind of capitalism, as leading to the greatest exploitation of the weakest, might be put in its own terms as an acceptance of the inherent moral inequities of free markets.'] (where "its own terms" means "capitalism's own terms). Fille Aeunnz Shookanaawa ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html