[lit-ideas] Män som hatar kvinnan
- From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 17:04:47 EDT
Män som hatar kvinnan.
----- Interestingly, to me, this is indeed, 'men who (some) hate 'queens'.
'quean' and 'queen' were indeed very neutral words in Old English. Surely
they are not the feminine counterpart of 'king' at all.
-----
I once had a discussion on the term 'quean' in English (as per J. R.
Ackerley's bio -- cited in the OED) to mean 'homosexual'.
Most people think that 'quean' (to mean 'homosexual') is related to
'queen'. Yet, 'quean' can be traced directly to 'FEMALE' without the 'ROYAL'
predicate attached to it.
So this is interesting to explain implicature, disimplicature, or
explicature.
I would think that 'quean' and 'queen' (indeed cognate with GUNE, in
Greek, as in gynecology) were neutral FEMALE words.
"Man" is interesting per se (as in Swedish 'maen', etc.). Alle-man, the
Allemanic tribe, the German tribes -- are meant to be all-man, i.e. where MAN
is indeed gender-neuter or gender-common.
This was recognised in OE, where 'man' had to be qualified to serve its
purpose. "weaponed man" (the weaponed man) was the 'MASCULINE' MAN, the one
with the weapon, where 'weapon' was metaphor for 'penis'. O. T. O. H., the
wyfman, or 'man' which is 'married' or wed to the weaponed man (?) was the
'wo-man'.
Greer and other feminists of course later popularised the 'woman' as the
WOMBan -- and even Michael Jackson played on this with HIStory tour -- and
the time when people started speaking of HERstory.
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I am ignorant if the wyfman vs. weaponed man has equivalent in Sweden, but
it seems not: they are still using 'maen' to mean 'gender-neuter' MAN now
NARROWLY implicaturally used to mean 'MASCULINE HUMAN BEING' and 'QUEAN' to
mean what it meant in Indo-European, 'gune', FEMALE human being.
Etc.
J. L. Speranza
The Swimming-Pool Library
Buenos Aires, Argentina
In a message dated 7/9/2009 3:21:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
teme17@xxxxxxxxx writes:
Just saw Män som hatar kvinnan (Men who hate women). I am aware of the
books, for some reason have been putting off reading them, so no comment on
the adoption. It is one of the best films I've seen in a long time. It is
not that is flawless, far from it, the characters are bit one dimensional,
social commentary preachy, plot in many parts predictable and so on. But
big screen films are supposed to be big, and this has got all, larger than
life heroine and villain, a stoic hero, a complex evolving story building up
from a missing girl to tale of corruption on national scale. The way
Hollywood used to do movies, think Sam Spade as a troubled, pierced, poor,
young
hacker woman in modern sweden. And yet the characters manage to be
interesting and touching, nothing about the film feels old fashioned (contra
say
otherwise fine Eastern Promises), and the graphic violence is necessary for
the story and not overdone. Very impressed.
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