I find the dogmatic promotion of enlightmented values both ironic and sad, but ignoring that and also whether or not this has anything to do with Islam, I have a few comments: > The problem is that "Enlightenment values" doesn't > offer the kind of solid ground they believe it to > be. > For example, many Enlightenment thinkers would not > have described themselves as rationalists. Jon > Wilson, > a historian at King's College, London, makes the > case > that the Enlightenment had far more to do with > anti-rationalism - thinkers like David Hume or Adam > Smith argued in favour of a much more empirical > approach of observation to understand the messy, > muddle of reality. > I think the author (of the Guardian piece, not Wilson) confuses the common meaning of rational, as in reasonable, objective, sober with the more specific historical rationalism as in Cartesian... I don't really see why Hume should be considered anti-rational in the first sense. > Another example, one of the most common > misconceptions, is that the Enlightenment was about > atheism, and drove an irreversible wedge between > science and reason on one hand and religion on the > other. In fact, none of the major Enlightenment > thinkers were atheists. David Hume wasn't a major enlightment thinker? Or wasn't he an atheist? Cheers, Teemu Helsinki, Finland __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html