On whether honor is rational L. K. Helm, retrieving from his deep knowledge of things Western-classical writes: "There is almost never just one reason for an important act like going to the aid of the Epidamnus aristocrats. Agreeing with the aristocrats was one reason and it was a legitimate reason. It just wasn't the only reason, and it is one of the other reasons that provoked the Corcyraeans." and titles the thing, "Whether Honor Is Rational" Indeed, the question often arises. I once made that inquiry to some Anglo-Saxonists, and was disappointed to learn that whatever word they had for honor in England pre-1066 it has not survived. I once did some intensive study of Spanish golden age drama: Calderon de la Barca, etc. The interesting but also boring thing about these plays is that they all resolve around a sentimental triangle, involving the honor of a woman. Where honor =df. chastity So a dishonoured woman can be one that has been raped, or who has engaged in ´conversation´before the vow of marriage, etc. The fact about honour is universal, even among more primitive societies, and in some Eastern societies, woman to be thus dishonoured are just mercilessly killed. The effect on the observant of such behaviour may be various. Some would conclude that, not only honor is not rational (or reasonable, if we must) but that it is in fact an empy notion, not dissimilar from what David Hume thought ´substance´is. In Spain, due to the influence of existentialism and phenomenology, some authors (notably Castro) have attempted an ontological approach to honor, where it is seen as the becoming of Being. It did not convince me. I don´t want to say that there is no such thing as honour but that it may be different for males and females. In this British parody, ¨The Happiest Days of your life¨, with Rutherford, the girls are temporarily placed in a boys school, and vice versa. In a boys college, the motto makes perfect sense, in a girls college it retrieves scorn from the School supervisor. The motto is: Guard thy honour (I always felt the motto was invented for the sake of a good punch line but wonder whose families in England did bear mottos featuring honor or honour) Cheers, J. L. Speranza Buenos Aires, Argentina ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com