In a message dated 9/12/2014 4:29:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, donalmcevoyuk@xxxxxxxxxxx writes in "Re: consider": "Still waitg to hear where Socrates suggests intentional wrong-doing is impossible or where Popper makes an anti-Cartesian point about connoiseurs. Ah, the silence." I think Socratic ignorance and Socratic knowledge are difficult things to discuss, in view that Socrates never wrote a word, and there are variable accounts of what he thought or believed. There's Plato's Socrates, for example. But the idea that he who acts wrong does so because he does not KNOW *seems* to yield the claim that McEvoy is looking epigraphical evidence for. As for the Popperian point on 'connoisseur', it might do to check Gombrich's essay quoting from Popper. Both Gombrich and Popper were involved with the University of London, and I would think that whatever Gombrich learned from Popper he did 'face to face', as it were. Gombrich seems to apply Popper's views on knowledge to HIS [i.e. Gombrich's] terrain: the theory of art and connoisseurship in geneal, and seems to consider that the infallibility of the connoiseur's knowledge is somewhat overrated? I should check a few more references. Cheers, Speranza ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html