John Wager has already replied to a truncated version of this message that made it to the list. I send it again in the full form in which it was written. John ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: John McCreery <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 9:08 AM Subject: How do we build on agreement? [Was Why philosophy?] To: wokshevs@xxxxxx An interesting dilemma this morning. How to reply to Eric and Walter, whose most recent messages are filled with sentiments with which I wholly agree and find most convivial as well? I find myself reflecting on conversational habits and wondering why it is so much easier to disagree than to build on what someone else has said. It is, somehow, as if agreement triggers a full stop--end of story--instead of presenting itself as a starting point for further development. I recall Kazuhiko Kimoto, the Senior Creative Director who hired me at Hakuhodo, pulling my aside one day to say that there are two kinds of arguments. In one, which he illustrated by knocking his fists together, the discussion goes nowhere. In another, which he illustrated by holding out his hand palm down, placing his other hand over it, then pulling the lower hand out and placing it on top, then repeating the process over and over, so that his hands rose steadily into the air, progress is made; new ideas emerge. Is it just that we live in what linguist Deborah Tannen has labeled an argument culture, exacerbated by litigious or violent conflict models in mass entertainment and a 24-hour news machine that depends on confrontation, instead of agreement, for news? Is it simply a vertebrate habit to respond more quickly to threat than to opportunity? Or is it, as Zygmunt Bauman suggests, that intellectuals' embrace of critique as their primary function has left the space within which rational discourse was possible in ruins? Whatever the causal factors in play--and as usual they seem to be multiple--I find myself reverting to Kimoto-san's gestures and suddenly realizing that one hand placed over the back of another does not imply the acceptance of palm placed on palm, a gesture that would signal agreement and end the discussion. Can we learn how to give each other the backs of our hands without slaps in the face? How could we go about that? John -- John McCreery The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN Tel. +81-45-314-9324 http://www.wordworks.jp/ -- John McCreery The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN Tel. +81-45-314-9324 http://www.wordworks.jp/