Ursula, Since I have an eBay-purchased DSLR on its way via priority mail from a pawn broker in Georgia, I am psyching myself up for its arrival -- spending a lot of time on photographic subjects and objects, and I spent a lot of time looking at your photos. Thanks. My first thought was that you were more comfortable with the idea of photography as art than I was. I'm thinking of your "New Orleans shades," "bananas," and "the Wages of" for example. In the latter you perhaps used a filter of some sort. I looked at the filters available for the camera I am getting. There is an amazing selection at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200549011719&ssPageName=S TRK:MEWAX:IT I haven't ordered any because something in me balks at changing the subject I'm looking at. I'll grant that "The Wages of" is the most striking of all your photos and the only one that seems as though you changed something; so I can appreciate the effects, but still I am more inclined toward a different approach. I may maneuver the girls into some interesting spot and then walk to a position where I can get the photo I want, but that is not the same as changing what I'm seeing -- or is it? But on second thought I can see myself taking advantage of some of those same things you saw. Did you intend "Market Shrine" as art or was it just something interesting, perhaps a bit artistic in its own right, that you wanted a record of? Had I passed by that Market Shrine I might have taken a picture of it as well. Lawrence From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ursula Stange Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:04 AM To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Four photos of Sage That first one, Lawrence, is very beautiful. The aesthetic response it elicits, I think, comes from a variety of features. First, the tension between the drama and the dreaminess. Second, the intensity (but lacy lightness) of the foregrounded tree being balanced by the distant, fuzzy heaviness of the mountains. I'm sure there's also something about the golden section and the rule of thirds. And, because the mountains are so far away, the lefthand space almost works like blank space. And lets not forget your beautiful dog... Thanks for putting them up. Makes me want to put pictures up somewhere. Wait, I have pictures up somewhere... http://ursulastange.com/iris/index.php Click on each picture to see the next (there's not too many). On 01/12/2010 11:49 AM, Lawrence Helm wrote: http://www.lawrencehelm.com/2010/12/sight-houndseeing.html Can photographs be art? Perhaps the consensus is that they can. I have never been convinced of that, but I know that something goes on in the selection, the angle, lighting, arrangement. Perhaps it's a seeking after beauty without precisely creating it as one would if one were painting -- and weren't being too photographic about it. Lawrence