on 7/30/04 11:12 AM, Judy Evans at judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > PDJ> I learned something listening to the Democratic convention last night: > PDJ> that John F. Kerry's middle name is Forbes and that he is, indeed, a > PDJ> Forbes on his mother's side. > > are our media, simply, very much better than yours? I've known since > before John Kerry announced he would run. I did know the precise > details but have forgotten them -- but you are correct in thinking he > is not a "filthy rich Forbes". Forbes is an old name and was once pronounced "Forbas" or "Forbose" or "Forebess" or "Forbss." In 1917 Keith Leask wrote of: "unsanctified snobs That could mangle the sound of a fine Scottish name And whittle it down into --Fobbs." Kerre is, of course, a name from the Borders. All of which adds up to John Kerry being part Scot, possibly part Irish and part Catholicised Alsatian Jew. David Ritchie Portland, Oregon (brother-in-law to a Forbes) ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html