Walter: Or is it that none of us ultimately possess full ownership rights over our own lives?We are allowed to slowly kill ourselves in all the myriad ways you list. But we are not even allowed our own choice in time, place and method of our own deaths. Unless we are willing to take a chance on botching the whole thing. Perhaps the nursing home lobby is behind this ridiculous food idiocy too. Or perhaps looking at the doughnut burger has made a conspiracy theorist out of me. The doughnut burger struck me as a great way to ruin both a doughnut and a burger.
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To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "John McCreery" <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Food for thought
The maxim would have to be properly formulated before we could meaningfullytest for universalizability. If all non-obese, non-diabetic persons were to eatthese burgerdonuts in moderation, the maxim would appear to be universalizable and hence permissible. If all obese and/or diabetic persons were to eat them beyond what prudence and temperance would prescribe, there would eventually be no obese and/or diabetic persons around to eat them. Self-contradictory maxims are not universalizable. Hence, this class of persons has an obligation not toindulge to such an extent.Of course, from a Darwinian perspective, the gene pool would be much better offwithout such persons and so from that perspective, that class of persons"should" eat them to their heart's content. (This reasoning seems somewhat akin to the Romans' claim that slaves were not fully human since they would rather live as slaves than commit suicide. Only less than fully humans would make sucha choice. Hence, the conclusion follows inexorably.)A more general ethical and political question this issue raises is whether theliberal state has a right (obligation?) to prevent people from knowinglyinflicting harm upon themselves. Is negative freedom really all that a liberalstate should be guided by in legislating law? Or is the establishment andenforcement of conditions required for a virtuous, healthy and prosperous life also within the legitimate mandate of the state? When, for example, is the state justified in implementing coercive restraint upon the addicted gambler, thealcoholic, the inveterate donutburger consumer, the obese, the medically noncompliant diabetic, the fundamentalist parent who refuses to grantpermission for her son's participation in classes on permissive sex education that contradict religious precepts, the addicted smoker, etc.. At what point is the state's obligation to ensure the common good trumped by the individual's rights over her own mind and body? Or is it that none of us ultimately possessfull ownership rights over our own lives? Walter O MUN Quoting John McCreery <john.mccreery@xxxxxxxxx>:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjaNYbPEydw Would eating these be immoral? What do our ethics professors say? John -- John McCreery The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN Tel. +81-45-314-9324 jlm@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.wordworks.jp/------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off,digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html
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