[lit-ideas] Re: F*ckland
- From: Judith Evans <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:52:35 +0000 (GMT)
Well. I suppose 'argie' could be OK, JL, it all depends. Taffy is I'd say
usually but not always offensive. Paki is really out of order.
> In La Plata, where I was born, the British
> 'consul' was indeed one
> Puleston, who have land in Wales. He was
> 'friendly' referred to as "Taffy
> Puleston" by the ignorant argies if you can believe
> that!
:) -- would they call the Patagonian Welsh/Welsh Patagonians Taffy?
more on Taffy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taffy_was_a_Welshman
> "Turk, 'an aggressive
> person', it read, "fig." (as in "My
> child is a little Turk, he is". This was
> later dropped).
"little Turk' rings a bell, but I can't work out why. This was the first
discussion I found:
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=670231
Judy Evans, Cardiff, UK
--- On Sat, 25/4/09, Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [lit-ideas] F*ckland
> To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, 25 April, 2009, 12:13 AM
> In a message dated 4/24/2009 5:00:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight
> Time,
> judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> Same as "Argies," a neutral
> > term.
>
> I wouldn't call it neutral. I'd never heard it
> before the Falklands War.
>
> ----
>
> Good point, Judy.
>
> Incidentally, Steven Berkoff (whom I met in Buenos Aires,
> post-Falkland,
> touring with, of all things, The Brit Council with
> "Shakespeare Villains" a
> one man show where he played well, er, the Shakespeare
> villains) has a
> play, "Sink the Belgrano!" -- very rude.
>
> I trust "Argentine" is a _long_ term for a
> nationality. Or rather, grant
> it. "Argie" can indeed be friendly. Same as
> "Paki" as uttered by Prince
> Harry, I suspect.
>
> Limey, too, but "Taffy" _would_ be very
> derogatory for Welsh.
>
> In La Plata, where I was born, the British
> 'consul' was indeed one
> Puleston, who have land in Wales. He was
> 'friendly' referred to as "Taffy
> Puleston" by the ignorant argies if you can believe
> that!
>
> Myself, since I have an Italian passport, I could also be
> called "Tano"
> which is a very derogatory way in Argieland to refer to
> "Italians" --
> 'gringo' is another -- 'tano' being short
> for 'Napolitano' where all are supposed
> to hail from (not my family though).
>
> F*ckland, sorry for the expletive, was a political film
> made in Argentina
> about an Argentine (or Argentinian, but that sounds like
> Palestinian) who
> goes to the islands to breed with the 'kelpers'.
>
> Fascinating subject, nationality terms. I treasure an
> anecdote Burchfield
> tells in his book by Faber & Faber on the OED:
> "Turk, 'an aggressive
> person', it read, "fig." (as in "My
> child is a little Turk, he is". This was
> later dropped).
>
> Cheers,
>
> JLS
>
>
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