[lit-ideas] Re: {Disarmed} Making of a mass murderer inEnglishClass
- From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:06:30 +0100
>You seem to be suggesting at the beginning that Grabar was
>lying by saying that Brent Stevens taught a class that Cho took,
No, I posted my findings as I went along.
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From: "Lawrence Helm" <lawrencehelm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: {Disarmed} Making of a mass murderer
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You seem to be suggesting at the beginning that Grabar was lying
by saying that Brent Stevens taught a class that Cho took, but
then you post a description of the course and the fact that he
was teaching it, namely without correcting your earlier
suggestion.
http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/cram/feature/wb/wb/xp-89365
As to your suggestion that Oehlschlaeger's course contradicts
Grabbar's assertions, if Oehlschlaeger's position were the
predominant one in academia or even at Virginia Tech you would be
right, but I don't believe that is the case. The predominate
anti-Christian movement in the West is pretty well known and much
discussed. Weber was the first to refer to the disenchantment of
the west, I believe. Some of us discussed some of these matters
in regard to Marcel Gauchet's The Disenchantment of the World, a
Political History of Religion. Gauchet is an atheist and notes
that the influence of Christianity in the West has dwindled to
the point, in his view, of insignificance. Charles Taylor wrote
the Foreword to the English edition of Gauchet's book and argued
that one can benefit from Gauchet's discussion of the influence
of Christianity in the development of what has become The West,
without accepting his conclusion that the Secular West no longer
needs Christianity. Nevertheless it is assumed that the
influence of Christianity has dwindled markedly.
The U.S. is more religious than any other nation in the West (see
Drezner's article for example:
http://www.nationalinterest.org/Article.aspx?id=13286 ), but does
that extend to what is taught in our Universities? My impression
is that it does not. Universities in the U.S. are thoroughly
secular. Harvard, Yale, and some others were originally intended
as seminaries, but that idea was abandoned long ago. Seminaries
do exist, but I am aware of no prevalent Christian influence in
any Secular University.
Lawrence
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