Palma: >>idiots construct idiocies (viz. i hacking) Phatic: -- to the effect: but who constructs 'idiots'? ----- Ian M. Hacking is married to Judith Baker. Baker was born in Canada. Studied under Grice in Berkeley. Grice was Baker's thesis advisor. They wrote a couple of books in collaboration. ------ Hacking, not perhaps oddly, was _also_ born in Canada. Cheers, Speranza