I have to agree with Andreas here. The citing of ancient authorities is no contribution to knowledge unless the relevance is demonstrated. This sort of cookie-cutter application of something read once-upon-a-time is not helpful. John On 10/16/07, Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx <Jlsperanza@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > FUNCTIONALISM: The Western Tradition in Oxford > > McCreery re: idea -- expression of idea. > > >Pondering the conversation about what goes on before we speak, I note > <that two possibilities are in play. > > In philosophical parlance, the possibilities seem to be: > > BEHAVIOURISM: There are no ideas -- only patterns of behaviour. So it's > the expression of alleged psychological stuff that matters. 'Analytic > behaviourism' made rough American behaviourism accepted in Oxford by Gilbert > Ryle with his _The concept of mind_. (Not the Western tradition since the > founder, Watson, was not a public-school boy). > > FUNCTIONALISM. Usually ascribed to Aristotle. Made reasonable to > Anglo-American-Argentine ears by Grice in his "Method in philosophical > psychology" (in his book, _The Conception of Value_, Oxford). A > psychological _state_ is a function (in the Turing sense of the expression) > of two variables: the perceptual input (sensory) and the behavioural output > (the babble). The Western tradition _par excellence_ because it is fully > developed by the greatest author within the Classical Tradition of the Best > Brand of Philosophy, Aristotle. > > MENTALISM. Not known in Oxford -- Common in the Continent. There is > _mental substance_ (res cogitans, in Descartes's lingo). This is structured > as a language, and may eventually get expressed in 'verbal' or 'exterior > language'. Not the Western tradition. Possibly Judaeo-Hebraic in nature, or > from some (who knows) some Teutonic source of animism. > > Cheers, > > JL > > > J. L. Speranza, Esq. > > Town: > > Calle Arenales 2021, Piso 5, St. 8, > La Recoleta C1124AAE, > Buenos Aires, Argentina. > Tel. 54 11 4824 4253 > Fax 54 221 425 9205 > > Country: > > St. Michael Hall, > Calle 58, No. 611, > La Plata B1900 BPY > Provincia de Buenos Aires, Argentina. > Tel. 54 221 425 7817 > Fax 54 221 425 9205 > http://www.stmichaels.com.ar > > jls@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > jlsperanza@xxxxxxx > http://www.netverk/~jls.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > See what's new at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170>and > Make > AOL Your Homepage<http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169> > . > -- John McCreery The Word Works, Ltd., Yokohama, JAPAN Tel. +81-45-314-9324 http://www.wordworks.jp/