JE> in that a) they were not all on the dole and b) > they were not (openly) > preaching jihad. EY> So the founder of the group preaching "that ‘we > will conquer the White House . . . we will be in > charge and Muslims will control the earth" is not > openly preaching jihad? Maybe I misunderstood. I > said "all these foam-mouthed nutjobs" more or less > generically, assuming that, as here, nutjobs are > seldom singularities. I was talking about the 4 suicide bombers. The fifth man was indeed apparently preaching jihad. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html