In a message dated 10/21/2009 7:27:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: and the attempt to influence a police officer." ---- "Yes, Grice has it right". Well, I'm referring to the passage in "Logic and Conversation": "[A]nyone who cares about the goals that are central to conversation/communication (such as giving and receiving information, influencing and being influenced by others) must be expected to have an interest, given suitable circumstances, in participating in talk exchanges that will be profitable only on the assumption that they are conducted in general accordance with the Cooperative Principle and the maxims." WOW, p. 30. Geary will say that, ironically, being "under the influence" is NOT one of those 'suitable circumstances'. Cheers, JLS, Bordighera